MoH final scene hole (SPOILERS)

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Subject: MoH final scene hole (SPOILERS)
+  1: Nov 13, 1995: Charles Betz <cbetz at mail.cee.umn.edu>
   2: Nov 15, 1995: isaackuo at OCF.Berkeley.EDU (Isaac Ji Kuo)
   3: Nov 15, 1995: bob at student_96rpg.williams.edu (snorkel bob)
+  4: Nov 16, 1995: "Julian P. Graham" <jpgraham at starfury.demon.co.uk>
*  5: Nov 19, 1995: straczynski at genie.geis.com

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From: Charles Betz <cbetz at mail.cee.umn.edu>
Lines: 69

Spoilers follow....





































In the last scene, the senator reassures Morden that nothing of
consequence has been found out by Endawi; just some
thousand-year-old rumours from the Narn. Morden accepted this
report at face value. Given that:

1. The Minbari and Vorlons fought the Shadows 1,000 years ago. 
2. The Minbari and Vorlon societies have (presumably) maintained
records for that time.  
3. There are Minbari and Vorlon ambassadors on the station, who
Endawi was charged with contacting.

wouldn't Morden and the Shadows expect the Minbari and/or Vorlon 
to have identified their ship, or at least to have mentioned their
existence?

Possible solution: Endawi is a good guy.

Broader point being: It's good for the plot that the Shadows think
they are still unidentified, but this is getting harder to
sustain. Enough stuff has gone down that (if I were Morden & co)
I would be mighty suspicious that my cover had been long since
blown. It's a classic counterintelligence tactic to allow covert
operators to continue their activities for a long time after
they've been discovered.



Charlie Betz |"God was their name for the hypothetical Biggest-Alpha-
U of MN      | Male-of-All. Being primates, they could not conceive of
             | anything as complicated as the universe running without
             | an Alpha Male in charge of it."  -- Robert Anton Wilson

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From: "Julian P. Graham" <jpgraham at starfury.demon.co.uk>
Lines: 52

In article <48c6v2$sp4 at agate.berkeley.edu>
           isaackuo at OCF.Berkeley.EDU "Isaac Ji Kuo" writes:

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> spoilers for     Matters of Honor
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> In article <DHzy16.Mt4 at news.cis.umn.edu>,
> Charles Betz  <cbetz at mail.cee.umn.edu> wrote:
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> >In the last scene, the senator reassures Morden that nothing of
> >consequence has been found out by Endawi; just some
> >thousand-year-old rumours from the Narn. Morden accepted this
> >report at face value. Given that:
> 
> [...]
> 
> >wouldn't Morden and the Shadows expect the Minbari and/or Vorlon 
> >to have identified their ship, or at least to have mentioned their
> >existence?
> 
> >Possible solution: Endawi is a good guy.
> 
> Another possible solution: Morden is a "good guy".  He's probably
> got a proverbial gun to his head 24 hours a day, and it's been
> strongly suggested that he survived the Icarus's encounter by playing
> ball.  If anyone's in a position to delude the Shadows into a
> false sense of security, he surely is.
> 
> (I wouldn't bet on it, though.)

Hmm.  Morden certainly seems to be a "bad guy".  And remember that
no one on B5 is ever exactly what they seem.  I think JMS will
spring some little "twist" to Morden's character on us further down
the line.


Regards
-- 
** Julian P. Graham **************************************************
*  Warrington, England.        "You have....forgotten something."    *
*                                   Ambassador Kosh, Babylon 5       *
** jpgraham at starfury.demon.co.uk *************************************

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From: straczynski at genie.geis.com
Lines: 5

     Yes, Endawi is more or less a good guy, in that he's totally
uninvolved with Morden or anyone on that side.  He was doing what he said
he'd been assigned to do.

                                                                    jms



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