JMS CIS Digest: 13-Feb-96 06:21:41 through 14-Feb-96 01:20:14 (25 msgs)
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13-Feb-96 06:21:41 through 14-Feb-96 01:20:14 (25 messages)
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John Vickery
Good Grief - DS9
<DtD praise&nitpicks>
Vorlon Theology
<Exogenesis>
<D2D: Bester>
A few questions
<<Dust to Dust>>
NEW B5 EPS!
8 NEW B5 EPS!
YKYBWTMB5W..
Minipax through history
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Date: 13-Feb-96 06:21:41
From: Anne L. Warner <71513.1177 at compuserve.com>
To: J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
Subject: #450493-#John Vickery
Message-ID: <forum.sfmediaone.451027 at compuserve.com>
References: <forum.sfmediaone.450493 at compuserve.com>
Joe,
Another casting question...
Were the Drazi spokesperson in Dust to Dust, the Green Drazi
Leader in Geometry of Shadows, and the Markab ambassador in
Confessions and Lamentations, all the same actor? Who is he? I
think I have also spotted him in Voyager as one of the Vedeans in
their first appearance, and in Kung Phooey: TLC, as Kwai Chaing,
in last week's episode. So I'm curious as to whether I'm right
that these are all the same actor, and if so, who??? (Oh, I do
know you can't tell me about the non-B5 roles. I just ran off at
the explanation... <sheepish, verbose grin>
Anne
Anne
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Date: 13-Feb-96 19:04:34
From: J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
To: Anne L. Warner <71513.1177 at compuserve.com>
Subject: John Vickery
Message-ID: <forum.sfmediaone.451476 at compuserve.com>
References: <forum.sfmediaone.451027 at compuserve.com>
I'm pretty sure he was both Drazis, but I'm not certain offhand
about the Markab.
jms
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Date: 13-Feb-96 08:21:02
From: Randy Hall <74617.420 at compuserve.com>
To: J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
Subject: #450497-#Good Grief - DS9
Message-ID: <forum.sfmediaone.451065 at compuserve.com>
References: <forum.sfmediaone.450497 at compuserve.com>
Thank you for responding exactly as I said you would. Some folks
on CIS now owe me money.
Randy
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Date: 13-Feb-96 19:04:35
From: J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
To: Randy Hall <74617.420 at compuserve.com>
Subject: Good Grief - DS9
Message-ID: <forum.sfmediaone.451477 at compuserve.com>
References: <forum.sfmediaone.451065 at compuserve.com>
Well, yes, Randy, I'm sure I responded exactly as you thought I
would. When one exhibits poor behavior in public, one will usually be
corrected. You came in here and, totally unprovoked, without any
message from me, without even a word from me in the thread, took a
cheap and untrue shot at me, and my behavior.
When one pokes the bear without *any* justification, except to
do it, well, I suppose it is only natural to expect some kind of
reaction. If I were to pour a pint of chocolate milk on someone's
floor, I could anticipate their reaction. But the problem would not be
in the reaction; the problem would be in the ill-mannered, senseless,
stupid and uwnarranted provocation.
Still, I take this as a sign of growth on your part that you
can now predict the kind of response your generally poor behavior
elicits. And, as usual, you just dive out of the way instead of
confronting the facts of your past behavior.
Which is exactly what *I* expected of *you*.
Symmetry is a wonderful thing, is it not?
jms
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Date: 13-Feb-96 08:37:11
From: Philip Hornsey <74053.2101 at compuserve.com>
To: J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
Subject: #450968-#<DtD praise&nitpicks>
Message-ID: <forum.sfmediaone.451072 at compuserve.com>
References: <forum.sfmediaone.450968 at compuserve.com>
DtD was *so* loaded I forgot to ask one.
When Bester showed up our gang had a bunch of *Minbari* telepaths
there to put the screws to him. Now, if he is involved in the
conspiracy that bumped off Santiago, Bester is smart enough to
know that all the "alien influence" charges are probably
nonesense, and the witch hunts are about *power*.
So, how come it looks like *the're right*? From his perspective
(and that of everyone else on Earth) it looks like the Minbari
*are* pulling the strings on B5.
Am I off base here? Would Earthdome and Psi Corps interpret that
incident differently?
Phil^^^^
FREE MARS!
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Date: 13-Feb-96 19:04:39
From: J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
To: Philip Hornsey <74053.2101 at compuserve.com>
Subject: <DtD praise&nitpicks>
Message-ID: <forum.sfmediaone.451478 at compuserve.com>
References: <forum.sfmediaone.451072 at compuserve.com>
Some might, others might not. Simple fact is, the rules of the
Psi Corps would forbid them from engaging ANY human telepath for this
purpose. So the only other recourse is non-humans.
jms
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Date: 13-Feb-96 09:54:28
From: Philip Hornsey <74053.2101 at compuserve.com>
To: J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
Subject: #Vorlon Theology
Message-ID: <forum.sfmediaone.451129 at compuserve.com>
Joe,
We have all be so obsessed with the trivia that has been
contained in the last couple of eps, that no one has asked the
*really* important question...
Who *is* the Ancient Vorlon God Boojie?
Phil^^^^
FREE MARS!
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Date: 13-Feb-96 19:04:42
From: J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
To: Philip Hornsey <74053.2101 at compuserve.com>
Subject: Vorlon Theology
Message-ID: <forum.sfmediaone.451479 at compuserve.com>
References: <forum.sfmediaone.451129 at compuserve.com>
Marcus was making that part up.
jms
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Date: 13-Feb-96 10:12:07
From: David Cerreta <72630.3433 at compuserve.com>
To: J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
Subject: #449786-#<Exogenesis>
Message-ID: <forum.sfmediaone.451137 at compuserve.com>
References: <forum.sfmediaone.449786 at compuserve.com>
Good to see that Franklin will be seen more later in the season.
I like Richard Biggs and we don't get to see him strut his acting
skills as much as I would like.
The expository sequence at the end was fine. I'm not sure what
you would have liked to have seen or heard. In any case, it was a
good breather episode (arc junkies aside) and it should help keep
any of those that are new to B5 in third season.
Saw your rebuttal to Phil Adams in the Space:A&B thread and
thought you were right on target. Exo fit to the T what you try
to do a the beginning of each season. I don't know if you
remember, but I commented on the first episode of season three
saying that it did a great job of summarizing and yet moved the
story forward. Just wanted to let you know that not ALL of us
forget the promises you've made. Most viewers (including myself)
don't know the exingencies of making a television show. I'd think
twice before telling you how to run things.
You've said for months now that the bottom drops out after
Exogenesis. I have waited patiently and enjoyed all the shows
that have lead to this point. AND--I have yet to see you fail to
fulfill your promises to the audience.
Also, I've been meaning to tell you that you should give kudos to
all the actors on B5. They've done a great job and their
performances continue to subtley and a nice layering to their
characters.
Best, Dave
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Date: 13-Feb-96 19:04:44
From: J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
To: David Cerreta <72630.3433 at compuserve.com>
Subject: <Exogenesis>
Message-ID: <forum.sfmediaone.451480 at compuserve.com>
References: <forum.sfmediaone.451137 at compuserve.com>
Thanks...on every level.
jms
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Date: 13-Feb-96 13:45:49
From: Fred Miller <76042.3474 at compuserve.com>
To: J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
Subject: #<D2D: Bester>
Message-ID: <forum.sfmediaone.451274 at compuserve.com>
JMS:
Where would SF TV be these days if it were not for the quality
writing of B5? Perhaps the most enjoyable aspect of Dust to Dust,
in my view, was the interaction of Bester and Garibaldi thoughout
the entire episode. It seems they are two sides of the same coin.
I especially liked the scene where they are interrogating Moshi(?)
to get a lead on the dust pusher. It had to be quite a reality
check for Garabaldi to realize he uses his badge and uniform the
same as Bester in order to get the job done, and to have Bester
be the one to point it out. Once again you keep your characters
believable by showing they have weaknesses. You have managed to
"lighten" Bester (like you "greyed" the Vorlons) enough so I am
not sure he is the total embodiment of evil. Also, whether
Garabaldi likes it or not, they do work well as a team.
And now for something completely different, a question. Various
telepaths on the show have stated that to do certain things (such
as deep scans, activating implanted programs, etc.) they need
"line of sight". Is this a figurative comment meaning they
require close proximity, or do they actually need to visually
acquire the subject in order to perform telepathic activities.
If so, are there, or can there be, blind telepaths? Thanks for
the info and the continued uncertainty you put in our lives.
Fred^^^^
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Date: 13-Feb-96 19:04:47
From: J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
To: Fred Miller <76042.3474 at compuserve.com>
Subject: <D2D: Bester>
Message-ID: <forum.sfmediaone.451481 at compuserve.com>
References: <forum.sfmediaone.451274 at compuserve.com>
Thanks. And yes, they do need to visually acquire the target,
in most cases.
jms
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Date: 13-Feb-96 14:23:08
From: Barbara Pfieffer <72302.2453 at compuserve.com>
To: J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
Subject: #A few questions
Message-ID: <forum.sfmediaone.451304 at compuserve.com>
Just a few questions:
Are you still working on "And the Rock Cried Out, No Hiding
Place"? AtRCO,NHP is waaay to long an abbreviation for an episode
<g>.
Do you have any idea what the titles of the final two scripts of
the season will be?
Will we *see* General Hague again this season or is he still busy
subverting Star Fleet from the inside? <g>
Keep up the good work!
Barbara
http://www.mcs.net/~bjpbekin
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Date: 13-Feb-96 19:04:48
From: J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
To: Barbara Pfieffer <72302.2453 at compuserve.com>
Subject: A few questions
Message-ID: <forum.sfmediaone.451482 at compuserve.com>
References: <forum.sfmediaone.451304 at compuserve.com>
Just turned in the script for "Rock," so that leaves just two
left to write. I haven't decided on a title for 21 yet, out of several
options, and the title of 22 is classified for now.
jms
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Date: 13-Feb-96 14:56:40
From: William H. DiPaola <76521.1751 at compuserve.com>
To: J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
Subject: #<<Dust to Dust>>
Message-ID: <forum.sfmediaone.451320 at compuserve.com>
Joe,
Question: Is Molari aware that G'Kar got inside
his head and now knows of his involvement in the Centauri
aggression on the Narn home world?
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Date: 13-Feb-96 19:04:50
From: J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
To: William H. DiPaola <76521.1751 at compuserve.com>
Subject: <<Dust to Dust>>
Message-ID: <forum.sfmediaone.451483 at compuserve.com>
References: <forum.sfmediaone.451320 at compuserve.com>
Yes, he's aware.
jms
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Date: 13-Feb-96 19:04:54
From: J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
To: All
Subject: NEW B5 EPS!
Message-ID: <forum.sfmediaone.451484 at compuserve.com>
References: <forum.sfmediaone.8 at compuserve.com>
Good news. We've finally convinced Warner Bros./PTEN to go
with eight new episodes in a row, starting the first week of April.
The new schedule, which just went out via fax to the stations today, is
as follows:
So here now is the revised schedule:
NEW EPISODES:
2/12 EXOGENESIS
2/19 MESSAGES FROM EARTH
2/26 POINT OF NO RETURN (w/Majel Barrett)
RERUNS:
3/4 FALL OF NIGHT
3/11 THERE ALL THE HONOR LIES
3/18 AND NOW FOR A WORD
3/25 IN THE SHADOW OF Z'HA'DUM
NEW EPISODES:
4/1 SEVERED DREAMS
4/8 CEREMONIES OF LIGHT AND DARK
4/15 SIC TRANSIT VIR
4/22 A LATE DELIVERY FROM AVALON (w/Michael York)
4/29 SHIP OF TEARS (w/Walter Koenig)
5/6 INTERLUDES AND EXAMINATIONS
5/13 WAR WITHOUT END: PART ONE (w/Michael O'Hare)
5/20 WAR WITHOUT END: PART TWO
We're now in the process of working to get 2 new episodes in
July, so there are only 3 left for October. Even so, we're very
excited to get a chance to show eight episodes in a row, building up to
the end of the May sweeps with our big two-parter.
jms
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Date: 13-Feb-96 19:29:50
From: Tom LeCompte <76711.572 at compuserve.com>
To: J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
Subject: #451484-#8 NEW B5 EPS!
Message-ID: <forum.sfmediaone.451514 at compuserve.com>
References: <forum.sfmediaone.451484 at compuserve.com>
Great news!
BTW, re: "Sic Transit Vir" - was that intended to be a pun in
Latin? Or was it accidental?
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Date: 13-Feb-96 21:01:44
From: J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
To: Tom LeCompte <76711.572 at compuserve.com>
Subject: 8 NEW B5 EPS!
Message-ID: <forum.sfmediaone.451588 at compuserve.com>
References: <forum.sfmediaone.451514 at compuserve.com>
It's accurate as far as it goes, and a pun on another level.
jms
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Date: 13-Feb-96 19:57:23
From: Neil Blevins <102226.3566 at compuserve.com>
To: J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
Subject: #451484-#8 NEW B5 EPS!
Message-ID: <forum.sfmediaone.451547 at compuserve.com>
References: <forum.sfmediaone.451484 at compuserve.com>
This is great news indeed, but one question...
> We're now in the process of working to get 2 new episodes in
> July, so there are only 3 left for October. Even so, we're very
> excited to get a chance to show eight episodes in a row,
> building up to the end of the May sweeps with our big two-parter.
So after the 8 episode run, there will be more repeats, a few in
the summer, and then we won't see the end of the season until
october? I'm really happy about the 8 show solid chunk with no
repeats, but why on earth are they posponing the season finale to
october again? Is it a production thing, or because PTEN is just
playing with our minds.
- Neil
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Date: 13-Feb-96 21:01:45
From: J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
To: Neil Blevins <102226.3566 at compuserve.com>
Subject: 8 NEW B5 EPS!
Message-ID: <forum.sfmediaone.451589 at compuserve.com>
References: <forum.sfmediaone.451547 at compuserve.com>
Because PTEN wants to hold episodes for sweeps periods.
Nothing more.
jms
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Date: 13-Feb-96 20:17:30
From: Barbara Pfieffer <72302.2453 at compuserve.com>
To: J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
Subject: #YKYBWTMB5W..
Message-ID: <forum.sfmediaone.451561 at compuserve.com>
Joe:
I know you're not on Usenet anymore, but I thought you'd get a
laugh out of this one:
> Sunday I was clambering around in my attic. My foot
> slipped off a beam, and I crashed through the ceiling,
> just barely catching myself before hitting the floor
> below.
And all I could think of, dangling there in the hallway,
was, of course...
You idiot, you can't die yet! There's still two
seasons left!
Dave Moore == djmoore at uh.edu == I speak for me.
Oh, a few scrapes, some sore muscles, thanks for asking.
I've even fixed the hole already.
Scared the sheet (rock) right out of me, though. --djm<<
Barbara
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Date: 13-Feb-96 21:01:46
From: J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
To: Barbara Pfieffer <72302.2453 at compuserve.com>
Subject: YKYBWTMB5W..
Message-ID: <forum.sfmediaone.451590 at compuserve.com>
References: <forum.sfmediaone.451561 at compuserve.com>
I'm glad we've given people a reason to live.
Granted, it's a silly one...but what the heck...you can never
have too many reasons to live.
jms
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Date: 13-Feb-96 21:10:03
From: John M. Hawkins <71742.160 at compuserve.com>
To: J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
Subject: #Minipax through history
Message-ID: <forum.sfmediaone.451597 at compuserve.com>
> The political officer: improbable dialogue? Most of it was
> taken direct from political statements, public ones, made by
> Goebbels, Hitler, Joseph McCarthy, Stalin, and other fanatics.
> The kind of Big Lie dialogue people continue to fall for today.
> Go to a Pat Buchanan rally sometime and tell me it's unlikely
> dialogue.
I suppose the problem with the Buchanan comparison is, those of
use smart enough to watch your show (don't worry, that's low-fat
butter I'm using) are smart enough to see this sort of political
demagoggery for what it is, and assume that it's so obvious,
everybody else sees it too. Too bad it's not true.
My only problem with Minipax is that it seems like a bad novel.
Yeah, it's based on history, but still. Perhaps the best way to
put it is, I feel like I've seen this story before.
Unfortunately, I'll probably live to see it play out in real life.
Zhirinofski comes to mind.
Maybe the saying ought to be changed. "Those who fail to forget
history are doomed to foresee the consequences of those who
do...and not be able to do a damned thing about it." At least you
gave us one character (the shop owner at the beginning of Dust to
Dust) who's read his 20th Century History. Even so, I wonder how
many of us could recognize modernized versions of the events
leading up to the Thrity Years War, or the rise of Cromwell, both
in the 17th Century, about as far removed from our time as we are
from B5's?
-John H
Patiently waiting for the new folks to get on board, so we can
get back to riding the arc...
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Date: 14-Feb-96 01:20:14
From: J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
To: John M. Hawkins <71742.160 at compuserve.com>
Subject: Minipax through history
Message-ID: <forum.sfmediaone.451694 at compuserve.com>
References: <forum.sfmediaone.451597 at compuserve.com>
Yes, we have seen it before...and we're seeing it now...and
we're going to see it again in future.
Someone once remarked, "Of course everything has already been
said. But since no one was paying attention, we must begin again."
jms
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