JMS on CompuServe (May 07, 1996) *POSSIBLE SPOILERS* 1/2
Brent Barrett
bbarrett at speedlink.com
Tue May 7 15:46:19 EDT 1996
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[ Summary of subjects in this section: ]
Sb: #500632-<Ship of Tears-Bester>
Sb: #500636-#>>Interludes<<
Sb: #500641-#<Ship of Tears>
Sb: #500646-#<Women on B5>
Sb: #500677->>Interludes<<
Sb: #500693-#>>Interludes<<
Sb: #500715-#Poisoning Kosh
Sb: #500739-#<Women on B5>
Sb: #501183-#Last Prisioner
Sb: #500911-#JMS: gun port=respect?
Sb: #500868-#Poisoning Kosh
Sb: #500924-Jeff Sinclair
Sb: #501034-season finale in October
Sb: #500944-Delenn and G'Kar
Sb: #501080-Babylon 5 on video?
#: 500632 S6/Babylon 5: Upcoming
05-May-96 23:13:13
Sb: #500600-#<Ship of Tears-Bester>
Fm: MARK D. SMITH
Joe,
Question about Bester. Will he continue to or begin to covertly assist B5
while Carolyn and the rest of the teeps are on board?
Mark
#: 500879 S6/Babylon 5: Upcoming
06-May-96 13:27:48
Sb: #500632-<Ship of Tears-Bester>
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
Yes, that'll be something Bester will do now.
jms
#: 500636 S6/Babylon 5: Upcoming
05-May-96 23:29:33
Sb: #>>Interludes<<
Fm: TONI MULLER
Just watched it a second time and had a couple more questions:
In the very beginning Morden shows an unidentified man some crystals. Then he
kills the man and takes the crystals. Later it appears that this was the
poison used on Adira. If that is so, then how did Morden know about her before
he talked with the man Vir made the arrangements with? Or was it something
else - something to do with Kosh?
Delenn looked uncomfortable when talking with Sheridan in the War Room. Is
this because of what she is hiding - like knowing what the Shadows want?
How did Kosh know what would happen to him if the Vorlons fought the Shadows?
Since he is the link between the Vorlons and the army of light, did he simply
realize that the Shadows would move to sever that link, or is there more to it?
And why couldn't Kosh successfully defend himself? Was he outnumbered three to
one, one Shadow being equal in strength to one Vorlon? It makes sense he
wouldn't call for help from his own people because that could turn the attack
into a full-scale battle right at B5.
BTW, today is my husband's birthday and on the way to his birthday dinner I
mentioned that I had watched B5 and that it was incredible. His response:
"Why'd you have to tell me that? Now I'm going to eat too fast so I can go
watch it!" We're definitely hooked.
Toni
#: 500880 S6/Babylon 5: Upcoming
06-May-96 13:27:49
Sb: #500636-#>>Interludes<<
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
The "crystals" were diamonds, he was bribing various people to let him
in and otherwise do things for him. And yes, Delenn's holding back some
information still, and Kosh was outnumbered.
jms
[ Summary: Loved "Ship of Tears." Wants to know if the aliens that prepared
the telepaths was the same race that abducted Sheridan in "All Alone in
the Night." Also, wonders what Bester was smiling at when he turned
around in the docking bay, before going around the corner to see the
guards. ]
#: 500881 S6/Babylon 5: Upcoming
06-May-96 13:27:51
Sb: #500641-#<Ship of Tears>
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
There's no relation between the aliens working for the shadows and the
Streib. The ones you saw in the flash were "doctors" of a sort doing the work;
there was no abduction required except of course the covert kidnapping from the
Psi Corps Re-education Center. As for Bester's look behind, he was just
looking to the guards behind him, and the ones in front of him.
jms
[ Summary: This poster doesn't think the "We have women and children down
here" comment was sexist, just dated. She goes on to disagree with JMS
about the chances of women surviving in the water after a ship sinking. ]
#: 500882 S5/Babylon 5: General
06-May-96 13:27:52
Sb: #500646-#<Women on B5>
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
True, a woman's added body fat layer can help them cope with the
temperatures, but if the sea is roiling and choppy, it takes a lot of upper
body strength to stay afloat.
jms
#: 500677 S6/Babylon 5: Upcoming
06-May-96 02:52:57
Sb: #500606-#>>Interludes<<
Fm: TRENT K. JOHNSON
I think I've flat run out of superlatives, Joe.
Interludes made me feel similar to the way I felt after Chrysalis. Sinclair's
"Everything's changing..." came back full force.
The confrontation between Kosh and Sheridan was chilling, to say the least. I
think that one scene defines the difference between Sinclair and Sheridan.
Somehow, I just couldn't feature Sinclair getting into it like Sheridan did.
But, Sheridan did *exactly* what I was expecting. It should be very
interesting to see how the two of them work (or don't work) together.
The death scene was tremendously moving, indeed. And I'm grateful you spared
us the image of the "spiders" pulling the wings off the "angel". Don't think I
could've taken that.
Franklin: Extremely well executed. Richard's performance was great. I don't
know if it was a trick of the light, but I had noticed subtle makeup changes,
especially around his eyes, in parts of previous episodes. (Avalon, in
particular). Somehow I knew he was losing his battle. I'm curious to see what
he does next.
When Sheridan asks rhetorically about the Shadow's motives, you could see the
pain in Delenn's face. She *knows*.
And Londo. Geez, how many of Morella's "chances" did he blow *this* time? Yow!
For a second, I thought he had Morden cold.
The Vorlon battle sequence was astonishing! The way the red ship caught, held
and then rammed the Shadow vessel (concentrating fire at the "heart" all the
while)...but the cost...
And thanks for giving some more names to faces for the alien races.
After it was all over 4 lines are still with me: "I don't care!",
"DISOBEDIANT!!!", "I want revenge. Nothing else matters. The rest of the
galaxy can burn!", and...
"Kosh!"
Trent/ReAnimators
^^^^ CD-RMES
#: 500883 S6/Babylon 5: Upcoming
06-May-96 13:27:53
Sb: #500677->>Interludes<<
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
Thanks. Yes, I don't think Sinclair would've handled that scene in the
same way; it needed someone who'd go toe to toe with something very old and
dark and dangerous in his way. He had to get under Kosh's "skin," as it were.
Needle and outrage and upset him until he got through...whatever the cost.
jms
[ Summary: Loved "Interludes & Examinations," but wonders why the crew
doesn't just arrest Morden. ]
#: 500884 S6/Babylon 5: Upcoming
06-May-96 13:27:55
Sb: #500693-#>>Interludes<<
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
They would do so, but since the fall from Earth, as Susan mentioned,
they've had to hire guards who may not be above bribes, as we saw in the
teaser. And Morden is good at covering his footsteps.
jms
#: 500715 S5/Babylon 5: General
06-May-96 06:02:18
Sb: #500588-#Poisoning Kosh
Fm: DANIEL M. UPTON
>> What's really left to address? The reasons given were the reasons; the
Minbari warrior caste were very much against the Babylon project; an extremist
clan within that caste decided to frame Sinclair for murder, using what little
info they had on the vorlons, in an attempt to destabalize or defeat the goals
of B5.<<
The only thing left to address is the most important part. Why did Kosh
cooperate with the effort to poison him?
Dan^^^^
danupton at blueridge.net
#: 500885 S5/Babylon 5: General
06-May-96 13:28:00
Sb: #500715-#Poisoning Kosh
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
Kosh extended a hand...because he recognized Sinclair.
Which is all I'll say for now.
jms
[ Summary: The poster who previously commented on the "We have women and
children down here" line tries to claify that she didn't think JMS or B5
was being sexist, nor was she trying to voice any sort of agenda; She
merely expressed her own, personal reaction to the line. ]
#: 500886 S5/Babylon 5: General
06-May-96 13:28:01
Sb: #500739-#<Women on B5>
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
Okay; understood, thanks.
jms
[ Summary: Wants to know if a Prisoner movie is being made. ]
#: 501226 S2/Star Trek: General
06-May-96 21:44:14
Sb: #501183-#Last Prisioner
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
Yes, last I heard, the Prisoner movie has hit critical mass, and will
indeed happen, with McGoohan both writing the script and exec producing.
jms
[ Summary: A poster just doesn't understand how a war can start as a
result of confusion over gun ports and why the Minbari would ever think
it was a friendly gesture. ]
#: 501227 S5/Babylon 5: General
06-May-96 21:44:17
Sb: #500911-#JMS: gun port=respect?
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
Bottom line, Steven...what you're doing is applying not only just Earth
norms and standards of behavior to aliens, you're applying distinctly Western
modes of behavior, conduct and mentality. You're expecting them to think and
act like we do, in the way we consider logical. You can't even apply that
criteria to other countries right here on Earth, let alone outside. Is it
logical to one day just walk away from all your possessions, just leave them
where they are, and start walking, not coming back? Here we consider that
abnormal behavior, abandoment...in Australia, among the Aboriginal culture,
that principle is called "walkabout" and is quite common and accepted behavior.
The idea of ritually mutilating a young woman's genitals is a hideous, terrible
notion to any sane person in this country...but in many African nations, it's
practiced quite commonly, on an everyday basis as part of their notion of
coming into womanhood.
Part of having *alien* aliens is that they don't think like us. One big
adjustment Americans rarely make when they go overseas is that they expect
everyone and everyplace to be just like home in attitude. But there are huge
differences...and those differences can start wars.
jms
[ Summary: Wonders how Kosh's "hand" could've gotten passed the encounter
suit in the pilot. ]
#: 501228 S5/Babylon 5: General
06-May-96 21:44:18
Sb: #500868-#Poisoning Kosh
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
It didn't have to get past the encounter suit; he was distinctly shown
extending a portion of himself *outside* the suit.
jms
#: 500924 S5/Babylon 5: General
06-May-96 14:12:17
Sb: #500590-#Jeff Sinclair
Fm: JEFF FRANK
>> #: 500590 S5/Babylon 5: General [SFMEDONE]
06-May-96 01:01:46
Sb: #499624-Jeff Sinclair
Fm: J. Michael Straczynski 71016,1644 <<
You are one sick man Joe! You couldn't have hardly gotten off the plane from
Columbus by the time you posted this.
Hope you, Rick and Pat enjoyed yourselves; we non-guests enjoyed your
collective presence.
Jeff
Sigh Corps - Pat Tallman Division
Dictator of Michigan and the Great Lakes Region
Auditor General
Fear RMES! - Everywhere for *your* convenience
P.S. -- Demon Night keeps asking about the postcard. I told him you got it
but he doesn't believe me.
#: 501230 S5/Babylon 5: General
06-May-96 21:44:22
Sb: #500924-Jeff Sinclair
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
It was a great convention, thanks.
jms
[ Summary: Asks about closed captioning of Babylon 5. ]
#: 501231 S5/Babylon 5: General
06-May-96 21:44:24
Sb: #501034-season finale in October
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
All episodes of B5 are closed captioned as a rule, unless something goes
wrong at some point.
jms
[ Summary: Loved the scene in "Ship of Tears" when Delenn had to tell G'Kar
that she and the Grey Council kept information from him which might have
helped his people. ]
#: 501232 S5/Babylon 5: General
06-May-96 21:44:26
Sb: #500944-Delenn and G'Kar
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
Thanks...it's a nifty little scene.
jms
#: 501080 S5/Babylon 5: General
06-May-96 17:33:58
Sb: #Babylon 5 on video?
Fm: JOHN L. FJELLSTAD
Do you have any plans to release Babylon 5 on video? I missed the first season
and most of the second season and would love to see the episodes that I missed.
John
WARPing around the Globe
#: 501233 S5/Babylon 5: General
06-May-96 21:44:28
Sb: #501080-Babylon 5 on video?
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
In the fullness of time.
jms
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