ATT:JMS Into the Fire ( *Spoilers* )
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Subject: ATT:JMS Into the Fire ( *Spoilers* )
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s 1: Feb 11, 1997: jegolf at MCS.COM (J.M.Egolf)
* 2: Feb 13, 1997: jmsatb5 at aol.com (Jms at B5)
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From: jegolf at MCS.COM (J.M.Egolf)
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Spoilers for Into the Fire
Okay, let's try this again (forgot which group I was posting to -- used
wrong spoiler protection)
>Forgive me if this has already been hashed over -- haven't been able to
>keep up with the newsgroup --
>
>In "Into the Fire" we find that all Londo's efforts to save Centarui Prime
>(or at least all the efforts tinged with revenge -- Refa, Morden) were for
>nothing, and may have even made things worse.
>
>If I understand the end of 3rd season correctly, Sheridan's confrontation
>of Kosh 1 caused Kosh 1 to directly confront the Shadows, broke the
>agreement between the Vorlons and the Shadows (that they'd only fight
>through the Younger Races) got Kosh killed, and indireclty precipitated
>the attacks by the Vorlons on worlds that were Shadow influenced.
>
>Theoretically, if Sheridan hadn't confronted Kosh, the war would not have
>escalated, yes? So in some ways, *his* forcing the action made things
>worse.
>
>Am I way off base here? Was this a deliberate parallel, or is your
>Unconscious working overtime again? <grin>
>
>And if I'm *not* way off base, and you haven't already covered this, could
>you please take a little time from fighting with the PTEN lawyers (it'll
>be a nice break, I would think) to explain (again?) how Free Will works in
>the B5 universe? I vaguely recall somebody trying to pick an argument with
>you about this earlier, but they were confusing the free will of the
>characters as people in a self- contained universe with the free will of
>the characters as your creations.
>
>Thanks again.
>
>Oh, I liked ItF just fine -- it worked for me, despite my already having
>figured out what would happen, and despite my disagreeing entirely with
>the premise (in my worldview, the Divine isn't manipulating us to join in
>The Battle on Its side, but *wants* us to use our free will to take
>responsibility for our own choices...)
>--
>J.M. ("Jamie") Egolf "A mistake is a mistake, where's the mileage in
>jegolf at mcs.com saying it didn't happen? In what parallel
> universe did it not happen?" JMS on CIS 02/05/97
>
>
--
J.M. ("Jamie") Egolf "A mistake is a mistake, where's the mileage in
jegolf at mcs.com saying it didn't happen? In what parallel
universe did it not happen?" JMS on CIS 02/05/97
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From: jmsatb5 at aol.com (Jms at B5)
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Yes, if Sheridan had not pushed Kosh into the trigger event that started
to accellerate the story, the events that followed...wouldn't have.
jms
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