JMS on CompuServe (Jul 27, 1997) *POSSIBLE SPOILERS*
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[ Summary of subjects in this section: ]
Sb: #687742-Claudia Opts Out-JMS
Sb: #688091-Claudia Opts Out-JMS
Sb: #687648-Claudia C fired!
Sb: #687731-Ok, how about this...
Sb: #688047-Claudia Opts Out-JMS
Sb: #688272-Claudia C fired!
Sb: #688242-Tim's Apology
Sb: #688512-#Tim's Apology
Sb: #688282-#Third TNT film???
[ Summary: Discussing the possibility of Claudia Christian being a
regular on two TV series at the same time, a poster brings up
Armin Shimerman as an example. But another poster points out
that Armin's role on Buffy the Vampire Slayer is not a regular
role. ]
#: 688578 S5/Babylon 5: General
26-Jul-97 15:22:11
Sb: #687742-Claudia Opts Out-JMS
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
No, it's almost impossible for an actor to be a regular on two shows at
the same time; to make the Stephen Furst thing work, for instance, allowing him
to be a regular on "Misery Loves Company," we had to support his request, and
we were happy to do that. Most producers would rather not.
In terms of guest stars, though, it's pretty wide open. Armin has even
auditioned for B5 on one occasion. And some of our regulars, like Pat, have
done work on ST, as well as Andreas, who reprised his character there.
jms
[ Summary: (See below.) ]
#: 688579 S5/Babylon 5: General
26-Jul-97 15:22:14
Sb: #688091-Claudia Opts Out-JMS
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
"JMS was simply not at that fatful alledged meeting between Claudis and
managment (or at least I've never seen him claim to be there) so he only knows
what others have told him about that meeting."
There was no such meeting.
"Now Claudia was alledgely present at that alledged meeting where they are
alledged to have told her to find another job."
Again, there was no such meeting. Claudia was in the UK, at the same
convention I was attending, when all this went down. And *I* was the one who
told her that she had to have her agent contact WB to tell them she was in, or
they'd withdraw the offer.
Kinda sticks a pin in that particular balloon....
jms
[ Summary: (See below.) ]
#: 688580 S5/Babylon 5: General
26-Jul-97 15:22:17
Sb: #687648-Claudia C fired!
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
"case in point - Claudia's cut-of date was last week - yet Joe claimed that he
had written stories that would have to be re-fitted around claudia and he
didn't have time... but if thats so then he never had any intention of writing
her in - so there is a whole there."
No, the date is incorrect. This all happened at Blackpool, which was
over the weekend of July 10th-13th. The Friday deadline that we have been
discussing was July 11th. The weekend of the 17th I was in San Diego, which is
when Claudia started talking about this at a convention elsewhere.
I could not have been sitting in a hotel pub with her on Thursday night
in Blackpool if I was in San Diego at the time. All this went down while we
were in the UK.
jms
#: 687731 S6/Babylon 5: Spoilers
24-Jul-97 16:06:08
Sb: #Ok, how about this...
Fm: RANDALL A. SCHANZE
Ok, so Claudia's gone, and both sides disagree about why. How about this
paranoid theory about manipulation:
CC has 2 major plot threads hanging over her, right? Her relationship w/
Marcus, and her latent telepathy.
Crusade, though no real proof has been offered yet, has been rumored to have
only ONE cast member from B5 as a regular: Marcus Cole.
CC KNOWS her character can't die, as she's in the last episode. She also knows
how much JMS hates to waste storylines.
JMS has said somewhere that he's left her part open in hopes she'll come to her
senses and want to do a B5 movie or something.
OK, so she (or her agent, or someone's maiden aunt agnes, it doesn't realy
matter who) engineers a little "Whups, misunderstanding" and CC is out for
season 5. Publicaly, however, she's very apologetic, misunderstandings all
around, really wants to be on the show.
Suddenly, her 2 postponed arcs are moved from B5 to Crusade, and she trades in
one year of steady work for FIVE!
Is it plausible? Is it paranoid? Is it likely? Is it totaly stupid and inane?
The ironic thing is that, assuming it's true, I kinda' hope it works... <G>
Mahatma Randy
#: 688581 S6/Babylon 5: Spoilers
26-Jul-97 15:22:19
Sb: #687731-Ok, how about this...
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
Gone off the Prozac again, I see....
jms
#: 688047 S5/Babylon 5: General
25-Jul-97 14:32:35
Sb: #686053-#Claudia Opts Out-JMS
Fm: IAN & KATHY TAYLOR
Interesting... (and thanks for posting it)
I'm not sure either side is telling us the whole truth here, but this, he says
without wanting to open old wounds, reminds me very much of what I was told by
someone with good reason to know about the loss of Michael O'Hare from the show
i.e. that the people in charge of the purse-strings basically made the
decision.
OTOH, it could simply be a case of mis-communication, he says, naively <g>.
Personally, I feel that the series benefits from two strong female characters &
that the loss of Ivanova would be a serious, though probably not fatal, blow.
Ian
#: 688671 S5/Babylon 5: General
27-Jul-97 03:57:24
Sb: #688047-Claudia Opts Out-JMS
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
"reminds me very much of what I was told by someone with good reason to know
about the loss of Michael O'Hare from the show i.e. that the people in charge
of the purse-strings basically made the decision."
See, here's what kills me about all this.
When the Michael situation took place, I came out very openly and I said,
"No, this was my decision, working with Michael," and very few held *me*
accountable, they tried to blame WB...here, I came out openly and said I tried
everything I could to keep Claudia on the show, and that her eventual departure
was not my decision, it was hers, and I'm being given the rap for it. I didn't
get it when I *did* make the decision (with Michael), and I'm getting it now
when I *didn't* make the decision.
Some days it's enough to make me lose my hair.
Waitaminnit....
jms
[ Summary: (See below.) ]
#: 688672 S5/Babylon 5: General
27-Jul-97 03:57:27
Sb: #688272-Claudia C fired!
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
"I won't say that there won't ever be an SF show as good as B5, as you've now
set the yardstick, and the rest have something to aim at. Maybe, someday,
someone will reach or pass it"
I'm looking forward to that. I'll be the first one to stand up and cheer
when it happens.
"I'll say one thing about Trekkies, even though B5 fans often beat up on them
<g,d,&r> - if Gene Roddenberry were alive today, and were active online, I just
couldn't see him taking even a fraction of the flack from online Trekkies as
you do from these excuses for B5 fans"
Noooo...I don't think so...ask Majel about some of this sometime. Believe
me, if Gene were online, he'd get the same thing. It's the medium, not the
person, that's the problem.
jms
[ Summary: "Didn't this entire thing blow up in public because Claudia was
at some convention 'spinning' this?" ]
#: 688673 S5/Babylon 5: General
27-Jul-97 03:57:29
Sb: #688242-Tim's Apology
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
Yep, that's what precipitated the discussion.
jms
[ Summary: The same individual that's been insulting JMS right and left
over the last few days is now angry at JMS' response to his supposed
apology. ]
#: 688676 S5/Babylon 5: General
27-Jul-97 03:57:31
Sb: #688512-#Tim's Apology
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
What smug?
You said that if I asked people not to talk about it, they would
automatically stop. I've been on the nets a long time, and that sort of thing
is so unlikely as to engender the response I noted. Hence my question.
As if my saying, "Now, stop that" would work.
How much power do you think I have?
The problem isn't what I'm saying, it's your sensitivity over it.
jms
#: 688282 S5/Babylon 5: General
26-Jul-97 01:29:23
Sb: #Third TNT film???
Fm: CARL CANTARELLA
Joe,
I read in a Convention Report Newsletter earlier that TNT has commissioned a
third film. Is this true?
#: 688678 S5/Babylon 5: General
27-Jul-97 03:57:34
Sb: #688282-#Third TNT film???
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
Yes, that's correct.
jms
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