JMS CIS Digest: 11-Jun-99 21:04 through 11-Jun-99 21:10 (8 msgs)
John D. Hardin
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Sat Jun 12 09:30:15 EDT 1999
RFC 1153 Digest of messages from
J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
11-Jun-99 21:04 through 11-Jun-99 21:10 (8 messages)
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CRUSADE
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Date: 10 Jun 1999 21:43:04 -0700
From: Dan Deckert <74156.1432 at compuserve.com>
To: J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
Subject: CRUSADE
Message-ID: <forum.babylon5.66457 at compuserve.com>
References: <forum.babylon5.66385 at compuserve.com>
Message text written by J. Michael Straczynski
> My take on #1 is that this is the weakest of the bunch, because this
> is the only one written at the behest of TNT; it's exposition heavy,
> too much swaggering macho stuff, no real depth, just stuff blowing
> up. The ones that follow are much better.
Whew! I've been "explaining" this ep as a "typical first ep of a spin-
off," where the writer (you, in case you were hoping we'd forgotten
<g>) has to explain far too much in far too little time and the actors
have to try to connect with their characters (and the other characters)
while spouting all of the dialog that you've been forced to give them
for that aforementioned explanation. I'd be worried if you didn't
think that the following eps were better. <g> Still, I wonder if I'd
have been totally clueless if I'd tried to watch this ep without the
background of B-5.
I've always liked B-5, tried to catch every ep, and ultimately
succeeded. I already like the still largely unformed characters of
Crusade based on the potential they exhibited in the first ep. My wife
is also an S-F fan and has also seen every B-5 ep. She had trouble
understanding Crusade ep 1, and she's smarter than I am.. Have you set
the bar too high?
Dan
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Date: 11 Jun 1999 21:04:03 -0700
From: J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
To: Dan Deckert <74156.1432 at compuserve.com>
Subject: CRUSADE
Message-ID: <forum.babylon5.66526 at compuserve.com>
References: <forum.babylon5.66457 at compuserve.com>
"She had trouble understanding Crusade ep 1, and she's smarter than I
am.. Have you set the bar too high?"
Nope. Check out next week's for proof.
jms
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Date: 11 Jun 1999 01:23:00 -0700
From: Lee Gordon <75030.1144 at compuserve.com>
To: J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
Subject: CRUSADE
Message-ID: <forum.babylon5.66465 at compuserve.com>
References: <forum.babylon5.66459 at compuserve.com>
> Now perhaps you get a small sense of what we've been up against.
And yet I don't recall a scene in B5 in which you fragged the head of
ITN or any other network. <g>
Lee
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Date: 11 Jun 1999 21:10:07 -0700
From: J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
To: Lee Gordon <75030.1144 at compuserve.com>
Subject: CRUSADE
Message-ID: <forum.babylon5.66527 at compuserve.com>
References: <forum.babylon5.66465 at compuserve.com>
"And yet I don't recall a scene in B5 in which you fragged the head of
ITN or any other network."
No, but there were occasional little hidden messages in the
episode, as when a character says, "We've had to make some compromises
to get this show on the road." No one noticed that one, despite being
rather literal.
jms
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Date: 11 Jun 1999 06:36:05 -0700
From: (blocked)
To: J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
Subject: CRUSADE
Message-ID: <forum.babylon5.66471 at compuserve.com>
References: <forum.babylon5.66459 at compuserve.com>
JMS,
> It was all real footage.
I'd thought it might be, particularly because I didn't see any
"futuristic" clothing or architecture...
> As for the exposition...one reason they asked for so much was
> because they said it was going to air months after ACTA, and nobody'd
> remember, and it wouldn't get rerun...then after we shot WZ they
> decided they *would* rerun ACTA before WZ...then a few weeks ago they
> decided to run ACTA -- which has all the info needed for WZ -- AFTER
> WZ.
You managed to break it down into digestible expository lumps,
however, which I congratulate you for!
> Now perhaps you get a small sense of what we've been up against.
That certainly explains the rather hokey fistfight at the beginning of
the episode. "Sleepy-gas in the ventilators!" I said to my husband.
"Or, WHERE is ship security?!" But no, they made you have the captain
of a ship slug out a mutineer... <shaking head>
Did they at least give you a blindfold and a cigarette? <wry>
Cassy
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Date: 11 Jun 1999 21:10:07 -0700
From: J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
To: (blocked)
Subject: CRUSADE
Message-ID: <forum.babylon5.66528 at compuserve.com>
References: <forum.babylon5.66471 at compuserve.com>
"Did they at least give you a blindfold and a cigarette? <wry>"
Not orally, no.
jms
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Date: 11 Jun 1999 20:12:03 -0700
From: SysOp Dupa T. Parrot <70040.104 at compuserve.com>
To: J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
Subject: CRUSADE
Message-ID: <forum.babylon5.66525 at compuserve.com>
References: <forum.babylon5.66460 at compuserve.com>
BTW, Joe, Rob Owen of Scripps Howard News Service has an article in
todays (Friday) Chicago Sun-Times about Crusade and TNT's mucking about
behind the scenes.
Owen quotes you once and gives a reasonably accurate and even-handed
account of what happened to the series. He almost sounds like a B5 fan
<g>.
I'll send you the clipping if you want it.
-SysOp Dupa T. Parrot, Technical Consultant
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dupa
OzWin 2.30.1 O-
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Date: 11 Jun 1999 21:10:07 -0700
From: J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
To: SysOp Dupa T. Parrot <70040.104 at compuserve.com>
Subject: CRUSADE
Message-ID: <forum.babylon5.66529 at compuserve.com>
References: <forum.babylon5.66525 at compuserve.com>
I've seen it, thanks.
jms
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