Elia Kazan

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Thu Mar 4 04:31:55 EST 1999


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From: mvp at netcom.com (Mike Van Pelt)
Date: 3 Mar 1999 13:00:34 -0700
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In article <36DD4D02.659789CD at earthlink.net>,
Mark Alexander  <mark_alex at earthlink.net> wrote:
>"Ronald P. Peterson" wrote:
>> 
>> Er, who is Elia Kazan?
>
>He's the guy who *named names* of Hollywood people and writers attending
>Communist meetings during the 1950's House on UnAmerican Activities
>Committee hearings.
>
>He's widely regarded in Hollywood as a weasal and a rat fink.
>
>What people rarely talk about is the fact that those who supported
>Stalin and Communist propoganda were waaaaaaaay wrong. Their thoughtless
>idealism (or conscious in some cases) contributed to the slaughter of
>millions.
>
>If Kazan were in Nazi Germany, he would have named names of those quiet
>supporters of the Nazis. Funny how today we are aghast at those who
>*failed to speak up* (read *failed to be weasals and rat finks*) when
>the Nazis slaughtered but we hold Kazan in contempt for naming the quiet
>supporters of Stalin and the Communists who conducted a much larger
>slaughter.
>
>But idealistic *artistes* are often duped by the duplicitous seekers of
>power.

I find it rather grimly amusing that those who profess the
greatest horror at "The Black List" now demand that Elia Kazan
remain blacklisted, forty years later, and get indignant, bent
out of shape, and even violent at any cracks in *that* black list.

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From: jmsatb5 at aol.com (Jms at B5)
Date: 3 Mar 1999 23:07:58 -0700
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>I find it rather grimly amusing that those who profess the
>greatest horror at "The Black List" now demand that Elia Kazan
>remain blacklisted, forty years later, and get indignant, bent
>out of shape, and even violent at any cracks in *that* black list.

Langauge and words have specific meaning.

To be blacklisted means that you cannot work, cannot pursue your livelihood.

Kazan has worked successfully for his entire life.

Further, most of those prosecuted under the blacklist were totally innocent and
never did the things they were accused of doing.  No one has ever said that
Kazan didn't name names.


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