[B5JMS] LOL at JMS' comments on ASM #36

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From: mchary at steel.ucs.indiana.edu (Michael Alan Chary)
Date: 6 Jan 2002 02:08:46 GMT
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In article <20020105202638.01115.00002314 at mb-mk.aol.com>,
Jms at B5 <jmsatb5 at aol.com> wrote:
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>(And on a different thread...when I said show me one human who could support
>the random killing of thousands of buffalo, or thousands of humans, just out of
>hatred, I was referring to rational human beings.  Obviously people like Bin
>Laden or Hitler are separate issues.  They've left the title of humanity behind
>by their actions.  I could've said "show me one sane, rational human being" but
>I'd assumed anyone reading this would consider that implici

Most Taliban are rational. Most of thoase people cheering in the streets
were ratrional. The men who dropped the bombs on Hiroshima, Nagasaki and
Dresden were rational. The Monguls were largely rational. 

These are human actions.
-- 
Mike Chary, Court Philosopher and Barbarian, DNRC
"I bought the Star Trek chess set and the Civil War chess set.  Now I have
the South fight the Klingons." -- Dave Spensley
"Ipsa scientia potestas est." - Roger Bacon

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From: jmsatb5 at aol.com (Jms at B5)
Date: 06 Jan 2002 02:43:38 GMT

>>(And on a different thread...when I said show me one human who could support
>>the random killing of thousands of buffalo, or thousands of humans, just out
>of
>>hatred, I was referring to rational human beings.  Obviously people like Bin
>>Laden or Hitler are separate issues.  They've left the title of humanity
>behind
>>by their actions.  I could've said "show me one sane, rational human being"
>but
>>I'd assumed anyone reading this would consider that implici
>
>Most Taliban are rational. Most of thoase people cheering in the streets
>were ratrional. The men who dropped the bombs on Hiroshima, Nagasaki and
>Dresden were rational. The Monguls were largely rational. 
>

Okay, but again, what does that have to do with what I said above, which
specifically refers to RANDOM killings out of HATRED?   I don't think that all
your examples apply.  Nor, for that matter, was I speaking about any of the
groups you cite: I was referencing only Bin Laden and Hitler.  Again, we must
keep to the specifics of what's at hand.  If you bring in outside examples to
dispute a point, all I can say is "that's not what I was talking about, so it
has nothing to do with the point at hand."

>These are human actions.

They are human, yes, but that does not mean they are rational.  Humans can be
irrational.  You seem to be implying that by virtue of being human, we are all
equally rational.  I don't think that's a supportable position.

 jms

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