[B5JMS] additional from jms

Sun Feb 27 06:20:59 EST 2005

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From: "Gropo" <verb1 at mindspring.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 16:41:45 +0000 (UTC)
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Fearless leader,

On January 30, in an email titled
"Quickie from JMS" you posted this concerning TMoS:

"I'd say that the next two weeks are going to be critical for the
future of
TMoS. There have been a variety of conversations about a variety of
things and
people, and some offers are starting to go out to various
individuals...so we
shall see what we shall see."

We out in the hinterlands haven't seen or heard anything, even though 3
weeks have passed. Can you say if things go well or not?

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From: Moyra J. Bligh <moyra at zlatna.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 03:42:28 +0000 (UTC)
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On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 16:41:45 +0000 (UTC), "Gropo"
<verb1 at mindspring.com> wrote:

>Fearless leader,
>
>On January 30, in an email titled
>"Quickie from JMS" you posted this concerning TMoS:
>
>"I'd say that the next two weeks are going to be critical for the
>future of
>TMoS. There have been a variety of conversations about a variety of
>things and
>people, and some offers are starting to go out to various
>individuals...so we
>shall see what we shall see."
>
>
>We out in the hinterlands haven't seen or heard anything, even though 3
>weeks have passed. Can you say if things go well or not?

To quote Mira Furlan at VisionCon in Missouri this past weekend, "It's
dead".

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From: LK <fountainmdomeb5 at yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 14:06:57 +0000 (UTC)
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On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 03:42:28 +0000 (UTC), Moyra J. Bligh
<moyra at zlatna.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 16:41:45 +0000 (UTC), "Gropo"
><verb1 at mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>Fearless leader,
>>
>>On January 30, in an email titled
>>"Quickie from JMS" you posted this concerning TMoS:
>>
>>"I'd say that the next two weeks are going to be critical for the
>>future of
>>TMoS. There have been a variety of conversations about a variety of
>>things and
>>people, and some offers are starting to go out to various
>>individuals...so we
>>shall see what we shall see."
>>
>>
>>We out in the hinterlands haven't seen or heard anything, even though 3
>>weeks have passed. Can you say if things go well or not?
>
>To quote Mira Furlan at VisionCon in Missouri this past weekend, "It's
>dead".

There is a dignity in something being dead for the right reasons.

LK

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From: jmsatb5 at aol.com
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 00:10:37 +0000 (UTC)
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I'm putting this here because the new message threader I sent eaerlier
is taking a while to move through the system.  So this info will repeat
soonish on another subject.

jms

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The rule of thumb in Hollywood is that for every thousand scripts that
get written, only a few dozen get into development, and out of those,
only one will ever get made...if that.

A little over a year ago, I was approached by a company that wanted to
make a Babylon 5 movie.  They optioned the rights, and commissioned a
script.  (It's worth mentioning that I, not WB, own the rights to a B5
movie.  When we were negotiating the original B5 deal -- by whose terms
I will never see a dime in profit -- the one thing they did let me have
were the movie rights, figuring they'd never be worth anything in the
long run.)

Anyway...on December 27th of 2003, the script for "The Memory of
Shadows" was turned in, and the process began of trying to make the
deal work with all the various forces involved.  It is, to say the
least, a very difficult process on any movie where the studio does not
directly take the financial reins.  In terms of B5, Warner's position
was esssentially, "We only do big-budget movies with big names, so
you're on your own."  If there were big-name movie actors in the film,
they'd get behind it; without that, things become very problematic,
especially as far as the financing was concerned.  You much have to put
together a consortium of international interests and business plans
rivaled in complexity only by the Allied invasion of Normandy Beach.

Nonetheless, every attempt was made by the people involved to get this
deal in place.  This was not being done by Doug or myself, but rather
by the company/individuals who approached us and optioned the rights.
At times, it seemed we were inches away from a deal...stages were
reserved at Elstree, actors were contacted, a director was in place,
the script went through many revisions, a few key staff were hired,
again not by me...it was really a year-long roller coaster ride.
During that time, the people involved, with every good intention, tried
very hard to pull the necessary pieces together on the deal.  The
option expired in late December 2004, but I renewed it without cost, to
give those involved more time to try and make things work.

In the end, however, the deal could not be put together, and it did not
look as if that was going to change at any point in the foreseeable
future.  So the option has reverted, and to all intents and purposes,
the project has dead ended.  Nor do I think this particular incarnation
will arise again at any point in the future, though prognostication has
always been a tricky art, especially if you have to do it without the
benefit of hindsight.

This was not the first time someone's taken a run at a B5 feature film,
and it will not be the last.  Eventually it will happen, because such
things are simply inevitable.  If they can do a Brady Bunch movie, you
can be sure that sooner or later, somebody's going to do a B5 movie.
The only thing I can say without equivocation is that when that day
comes, as the rights-holder, I will make darned sure that it's done
right, because I'd rather have no B5 movie than one that doesn't live
up to what fans and I myself would want to see.

To that end...I can wait.

Anyway, just thought you should know the story.

jms

copyright (c) 2005 by
Synthetic Worlds, Ltd.
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denied to SFX Magazine

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From: Chris Kocher <ckocher at stny.rr.com>
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 18:00:59 +0000 (UTC)
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jmsatb5 at aol.com wrote:

> (It's worth mentioning that I, not WB, own the rights to a B5
> movie.  When we were negotiating the original B5 deal -- by whose terms
> I will never see a dime in profit -- the one thing they did let me have
> were the movie rights, figuring they'd never be worth anything in the
> long run.)

So basically, all the letters and hype and hatred for Warner Bros. over 
the past six months was less than pointless, since they had no role in 
the B5 movie at all.

Ironic, really, considering how much in a tizzy some pople were around here.

Chris

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From: jmsatb5 at aol.com
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 07:45:22 +0000 (UTC)
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"So basically, all the letters and hype and hatred for Warner Bros.
over
the past six months was less than pointless, since they had no role in
the B5 movie at all.
Ironic, really, considering how much in a tizzy some pople were around
here."

Your assumption is not valid.  Which is all I can say for the moment.

jms