[B5JMS] iTunes question for JMS

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Thu May 17 04:35:11 EDT 2007


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From: aldarion at gmail.com
Date: 9 May 2007 14:48:55 -0700
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Are you receiving any of the revenue from sales of B5 on iTunes? Is WB
actually sharing? This will determine whether I buy the series online
or just rip the episodes from my DVD's (Legal issues aside).




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From: "jmsatb5 at aol.com" <jmsatb5 at aol.com>
Date: 10 May 2007 09:24:30 -0700
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On May 9, 2:48 pm, aldar... at gmail.com wrote:
> Are you receiving any of the revenue from sales of B5 on iTunes? Is WB
> actually sharing? This will determine whether I buy the series online
> or just rip the episodes from my DVD's (Legal issues aside).


Not a gripe, just an answer...as writer, creator and EP I have never
received anything from the DVD sales, Itunes, AOL, bittorrent,
soundtracks or any other form of video distribution on B5.

This is one of the reasons why there's almost certainly going to be a
writer's strike this year.

jms



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From: swp <Stephen.W.Perry at gmail.com>
Date: 10 May 2007 19:06:58 -0700
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On May 10, 12:24 pm, "jmsa... at aol.com" <jmsa... at aol.com> wrote:
> On May 9, 2:48 pm, aldar... at gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Are you receiving any of the revenue from sales of B5 on iTunes? Is WB
> > actually sharing? This will determine whether I buy the series online
> > or just rip the episodes from my DVD's (Legal issues aside).
>
> Not a gripe, just an answer...as writer, creator and EP I have never
> received anything from the DVD sales, Itunes, AOL, bittorrent,
> soundtracks or any other form of video distribution on B5.
>
> This is one of the reasons why there's almost certainly going to be a
> writer's strike this year.
>
> jms

I thought you had Harlan Ellison on board with you as a creative
consultant on B5.  Didn't he give you his boiler-plate, iron clad
contract for making sure that THE WRITER GETS PAID and owns his own
work?  This just seems .. wrong, considering who is involved.

Here's to hoping the strike is settled before it happens, and that we
are not subjected to a spate of amatuer writers or worse yet some new
"reality" shows.  Some of us might actually have to go back to reading
books...

swp



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From: "John W. Kennedy" <jwkenne at attglobal.net>
Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 20:23:09 -0400
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swp wrote:
> On May 10, 12:24 pm, "jmsa... at aol.com" <jmsa... at aol.com> wrote:
>> On May 9, 2:48 pm, aldar... at gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Are you receiving any of the revenue from sales of B5 on iTunes? Is W=
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>>> actually sharing? This will determine whether I buy the series online
>>> or just rip the episodes from my DVD's (Legal issues aside).
>> Not a gripe, just an answer...as writer, creator and EP I have never
>> received anything from the DVD sales, Itunes, AOL, bittorrent,
>> soundtracks or any other form of video distribution on B5.
>>
>> This is one of the reasons why there's almost certainly going to be a
>> writer's strike this year.
>>
>> jms
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> I thought you had Harlan Ellison on board with you as a creative
> consultant on B5.  Didn't he give you his boiler-plate, iron clad
> contract for making sure that THE WRITER GETS PAID and owns his own
> work?  This just seems .. wrong, considering who is involved.

The technical term for that is "pricing yourself out of the market". No=20
one in 1992-8 could have pulled such a deal off.

That's why the WGA exists, and that's why it looks like a strike.

=C0 la lanterne touts les "suits"!

--=20
John W. Kennedy
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From: "jmsatb5 at aol.com" <jmsatb5 at aol.com>
Date: 16 May 2007 16:54:43 -0700
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On May 11, 5:23 pm, "John W. Kennedy" <jwke... at attglobal.net> wrote:
> swp wrote:

> The technical term for that is "pricing yourself out of the market". No
> one in 1992-8 could have pulled such a deal off.
>
> That's why the WGA exists, and that's why it looks like a strike.
>
> =C0 la lanterne touts les "suits"!
>

Here's the cored of it, and what people looking in need to
understand.

Basic stats:

Fifty percent, half the Writers Guild, is unemployed, at any given
time.

The majority of WGA members sell maybe one or two TV scripts per year.

The same majority of WGA members earn less than 45K per year, less
than many grade school teachers.

Most WGA members have to work daytme jobs to supplement their writing
work.

And the percentage of WGA members who earn six figures and up accounts
for less than 1% of all WGA members.

Those are not rosy stats.

Leaving out the aspect of deferred compensation...residuals exist to
help writers stay alive and available between assignments.  If you
only make one or two sales in a year, the residuals for what you sold
last year will help pay this year's bills and allow you to keep
writing.  Take that away, and the bulk of the writers working in TV
would have to drop out of the business.

Writers, directors and actors have, until recently, been able to get
residuals on the various venues through which their shows are seen
(broadcast and cable TV, overseas exhibitions and theatrical
distribution).  But virtually everybody in that group gets nothing out
of the distribution means that were not covered by those long-ago
contracts (the last real negotiation was in 1988).  DVDs, Xbox,
Itunes, bittorrent, most satellite systems, Joost and other internet
distribution systems do not pay anything to anyone in those three
categories.  In theory they should get something, the foundation is
there in the old contrats, but the formula used to determine residuals
based on VHS sales can be adjusted infinitely to ensure nobody gets
anything.

We're not talking here luxurious terms for luxurious circumstances;
we're talking about the basic necessities of life that will help
writers, especially newer, retired or struggling writers, keep their
homes and pay their bills.  Bread and butter issues.  If you're a
writer making six figures plus in sales per year, residuals aren't
that big a deal...it's everybody else, everybody who's just making
ends meet, who live or die depending on the small residuals check that
comes in from time to time, helping out when bills come.

Just so everyone's clear on the concept.

jms





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