[B5JMS] Changeling Poster now Available - was Re: JMS: "Changeling" promo and update

Tue Sep 30 04:48:52 EDT 2008

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From: Jan <janmschroeder at aol.com>
Date: 3 Sep 2008 11:58:45 -0700
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JMS,

So, with less than two months before the theater debut of "Changeling", any idea
what kind of promotions we can look forward to?  Are you going to be dragged
kicking and screaming in front of TV cameras on talk shows?

Any other updates you can share?

Thanks,
Jan

-- 
I try never to get involved in my own life. Too much trouble.

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From: Amy Guskin <aisling at fjordstone.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 02:25:01 GMT
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>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:59:02 -0400, thus spake Dan Dassow (in article=20
<7a42fe03-813e-48b1-845b-4908a89f16d8 at l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>):

> On Sep 3, 1:58=A0pm, Jan <janmschroe... at aol.com> wrote:
>> JMS,
>>=20
>> So, with less than two months before the theater debut of "Changeling"=
, any=20
>> idea
>> what kind of promotions we can look forward to? =A0Are you going to be=
 dragged
>> kicking and screaming in front of TV cameras on talk shows?
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>> Any other updates you can share?
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>> Thanks,
>> Jan
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> Tommorow on Entertainment Tonight is a Changeling exclusive with
> scenes from the film.
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> On tonights ET ( http://www.etonline.com/ ), there were five or six
> one or two second clips from Changeling. The promos to tomorrow's
> Entertainment Tonight should be available on the website sometime
> early tomorrow and should include one or two second clips from
> Changeling. The promos are shown at the end of the videos on their
> webpage. <<

For those who don't normally watch this show -- like me -- it seems to be=
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CBS, at 7 PM.  Unless it's syndicated.  In which case, you should check y=
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local listings.

Amy
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again for the truth to sink in, to kinda catapult the propaganda." - Geor=
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From: Dan Dassow <dan_dassow at yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:32:49 -0700 (PDT)
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On Sep 10, 9:25=A0pm, Amy Guskin <aisl... at fjordstone.com> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:59:02 -0400, thus spake Dan Dassow (in article
>
> <7a42fe03-813e-48b1-845b-4908a89f1... at l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>):
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 3, 1:58=A0pm, Jan <janmschroe... at aol.com> wrote:
> >> JMS,
>
> >> So, with less than two months before the theater debut of "Changeling"=
, any
> >> idea
> >> what kind of promotions we can look forward to? =A0Are you going to be=
 dragged
> >> kicking and screaming in front of TV cameras on talk shows?
>
> >> Any other updates you can share?
>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Jan
>
> > Tommorow on Entertainment Tonight is a Changeling exclusive with
> > scenes from the film.
>
> > On tonights ET (http://www.etonline.com/), there were five or six
> > one or two second clips from Changeling. The promos to tomorrow's
> > Entertainment Tonight should be available on the website sometime
> > early tomorrow and should include one or two second clips from
> > Changeling. The promos are shown at the end of the videos on their
> > webpage. <<
>
> For those who don't normally watch this show -- like me -- it seems to be=
 on
> CBS, at 7 PM. =A0Unless it's syndicated. =A0In which case, you should che=
ck your
> local listings.
>
> Amy

According to http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer-news/92

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We have confirmed that the feature trailer for Changeling will arrive
by noon PST on September 11th. The thriller is directed by Clint
Eastwood and features Angelina Jolie, John Malkovich and Jeffrey
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http://www.changelingmovie.net/
http://www.universalpictures.com/
http://www.universalpicturesinternational.com/

Dan Dassow

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From: Dan Dassow <dan_dassow at yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:20:55 -0700 (PDT)
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The trailer just came out for Changeling on http://movies.yahoo.com .
<*** SMILE ***>
The direct link for the Changeling trailer is
http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809945088/video/9690286 .

Dan Dassow

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From: Dan Dassow <dan_dassow at yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:32:18 -0700 (PDT)
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On Sep 11, 4:20=A0pm, Dan Dassow <dan_das... at yahoo.com> wrote:
> The trailer just came out for Changeling onhttp://movies.yahoo.com.
> <*** SMILE ***>
> The direct link for the Changeling trailer is http://movies.yahoo.com/mov=
ie/1809945088/video/9690286.
>

The Official Website for Changeling just became active.
http://www.changelingmovie.net/

Dan Dassow

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From: "John W. Kennedy" <John.W.Kennedy at gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:29:10 -0700 (PDT)
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Dan Dassow wrote:
> On Sep 11, 4:20 pm, Dan Dassow <dan_das... at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> The trailer just came out for Changeling onhttp://movies.yahoo.com.
>> <*** SMILE ***>
>> The direct link for the Changeling trailer is http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809945088/video/9690286.
>>
>
> The Official Website for Changeling just became active.
> http://www.changelingmovie.net/

/Very/ impressed with Angelina Jolie having pushed her natural pitch
up about a fifth to produce the period notion of a "feminine" voice.
Far too few actors nowadays, and almost no actresses, use this
important part of an actor's toolkit.

--
John W Kennedy
Posting via Google Groups because the moderation is busted

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From: Amy Guskin <aisling at fjordstone.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 00:39:16 GMT
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>> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:29:10 -0400, thus spake John W. Kennedy (in article 
<2fdc2f3c-f138-4eae-867f-a7a1adc6a3c0 at c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>):

> Dan Dassow wrote:
>> On Sep 11, 4:20 pm, Dan Dassow <dan_das... at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> The trailer just came out for Changeling onhttp://movies.yahoo.com.
>>> <*** SMILE ***>
>>> The direct link for the Changeling trailer is 
>>> http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809945088/video/9690286.
>>> 
>> 
>> The Official Website for Changeling just became active.
>> http://www.changelingmovie.net/
> 
> /Very/ impressed with Angelina Jolie having pushed her natural pitch
> up about a fifth to produce the period notion of a "feminine" voice.
> Far too few actors nowadays, and almost no actresses, use this
> important part of an actor's toolkit. <<

Nice catch.  I haven't seen any scenes/trailers yet, but I'll be keeping my 
ears open for that.  I'm pretty voice-conscious, too.

Amy
-- 
"In my line of work you gotta keep repeating things over and over and over 
again for the truth to sink in, to kinda catapult the propaganda." - George 
W. Bush, May 24, 2005

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From: Dan Dassow <dan_dassow at yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 19:09:22 -0700 (PDT)
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On Sep 17, 7:39=A0pm, Amy Guskin <aisl... at fjordstone.com> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:29:10 -0400, thus spake John W. Kennedy (in art=
icle
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> <2fdc2f3c-f138-4eae-867f-a7a1adc6a... at c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>):
>
> > Dan Dassow wrote:
> >> On Sep 11, 4:20 pm, Dan Dassow <dan_das... at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>> The trailer just came out for Changeling onhttp://movies.yahoo.com.
> >>> <*** SMILE ***>
> >>> The direct link for the Changeling trailer is
> >>>http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809945088/video/9690286.
>
> >> The Official Website for Changeling just became active.
> >>http://www.changelingmovie.net/
>
> > /Very/ impressed with Angelina Jolie having pushed her natural pitch
> > up about a fifth to produce the period notion of a "feminine" voice.
> > Far too few actors nowadays, and almost no actresses, use this
> > important part of an actor's toolkit. <<
>
> Nice catch. =A0I haven't seen any scenes/trailers yet, but I'll be keepin=
g my
> ears open for that. =A0I'm pretty voice-conscious, too.
>

Sites with the Changeling Trailer

Official Site for Changeling: http://www.changelingmovie.net/
Universal Pictures: http://www.universalpictures.com/
Note: The link to Changeling under Coming Soon is broken. The link to
the trailer under Trailers is rather slow.

Universal Pictures International: http://www.universalpicturesinternational=
.com/
Changeling is listed under Coming Soon, but there is no link.

Yahoo:
http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809945088/video/9690286
http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809945088/info

IMDb: http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi3944284185/

YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DHpsN7xP3VtI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D_sxikEYkOmo

Trailer Addict:
http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/changeling/trailer

Video Downloads
Quicktime:

480p (Link below) 45.2MB
http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?sid=3D71447440&sdm=3Dweb&pt=
=3Drd

720p (Link below) 103MB
http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?sid=3D71447441&sdm=3Dweb&pt=
=3Drd

1080p (Link below) 151MB
http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?sid=3D71447444&sdm=3Dweb&pt=
=3Drd

International Trailer
http://video.thinkjam.com/?h=3D122e2c34fff46c4128f0ed6924f802a5&q=3Dhi&m=3D=
qt

Windows:
http://video.thinkjam.com/?h=3D122e2c34fff46c4128f0ed6924f802a5&q=3Dhi&m=3D=
win

Meet Ellen's New Neighbors on the Warner Bros. Lot! - Part 2 of 2
http://ellen.warnerbros.com/2008/09/meet_ellens_new_neighbors_part.php

This is also on YouTube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DBFoAl9daeKU

Clint Eastwood appears from 4:57 to 5:49. He shows Ellen DeGeneres two
posters from Changeling. (These have not been released as of today.)
The best view of both posters is at 5:19. The left poster is clearly
shown at 5:25 and the right poster at 5:27.

Dan Dassow

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From: Dan Dassow <dan_dassow at yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:13:27 -0700 (PDT)
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http://jmsnews.com/forums/showthread.php?p=50644#post50644

http://www.buzzline.fr/images/cinema/changeling-aff.jpg

http://www.buzzline.fr/index.php/?2008/09/24/4409-l-echange-l-affiche-officielle-du-nouveau-clint-eastwood

http://universalpictures-film.fr/

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From: Dan Dassow <dan_dassow at yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:43:57 -0700 (PDT)
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On Sep 24, 12:13=A0pm, Dan Dassow <dan_das... at yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://jmsnews.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3D50644#post50644
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> http://www.buzzline.fr/images/cinema/changeling-aff.jpg
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> http://www.buzzline.fr/index.php/?2008/09/24/4409-l-echange-l-affiche...
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> http://universalpictures-film.fr/

The English Version of the Poster is now available.

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.cinematical.com/media/2008/09/changeling-=
poster-454x670.jpg

http://www.cinematical.com/2008/09/24/changeling-poster-exclusive-first-loo=
k/

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From: "jmsatb5 at aol.com" <jmsatb5 at aol.com>
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 22:43:00 -0700 (PDT)
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So here's a question for the group mind...a weird question that my
agent asked me, when he noticed it, and I didn't have an answer, so I
figured somebody here might.

If you do a google search -- web or blog -- on my name, and sort date
to the most recent, you hit a lot of B5 stuff, some comics stuff, and
the like.  You see very little on Changeling.

But if you do a search for Changeling for the same period, and sort
date, even though my name is all through those entries, almost none of
them showed up on the other Google search, even though Changeling and
my name were in the same areas and thus should have been sorted
equally.

It's almost as if Google is weighted to search in some areas, and
disregard others.  Kind of a weird internet typecasting.

Whuzzup wit dat?

jms

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From: Matt Ion <soundy106 at gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 23:02:13 -0700
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jmsatb5 at aol.com wrote:
> So here's a question for the group mind...a weird question that my
> agent asked me, when he noticed it, and I didn't have an answer, so I
> figured somebody here might.
> 
> If you do a google search -- web or blog -- on my name, and sort date
> to the most recent, you hit a lot of B5 stuff, some comics stuff, and
> the like.  You see very little on Changeling.
> 
> But if you do a search for Changeling for the same period, and sort
> date, even though my name is all through those entries, almost none of
> them showed up on the other Google search, even though Changeling and
> my name were in the same areas and thus should have been sorted
> equally.
> 
> It's almost as if Google is weighted to search in some areas, and
> disregard others.  Kind of a weird internet typecasting.
> 
> Whuzzup wit dat?

Search engines generally rank on what searches lead to a certain result, 
rather than simply how often a given word or phrase appears.  If ten 
people google your name, and eight click on a B5 result, and two on a 
Changeling result, the B5 results will rank higher on subsequent 
searches... the next time someone searches, they're likely to click on 
the results they see first... and thus keep the B5 hits higher as the 
Changeling hits fall down the list.

Since there were lots and lots of "JMS" searches that led to B5 long 
before Changeling came around, B5 already had a significant head start. 
  People would need to search your name, then bypass the B5, the 
Ghostbusters, the Murder, and everything else that comes up first, and 
click the Changeling links, in order to move it up the ranks.

I don't think (just guessing, really, though a somewhat educated guess) 
that most search engines distinguish names from any other part of speech 
in a body of text.  The occurrence of the word "the" is no more likely 
to push a given search up the rankings than the occurrence of the word 
"Joe" or "Straczynski" or "Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious".

The most important factor for any search is how useful the searchers 
find it... thus the ones that are clicked more, get ranked higher, plain 
and simple.

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From: "jmsatb5 at aol.com" <jmsatb5 at aol.com>
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 23:50:40 -0700 (PDT)
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On Sep 28, 11:02=A0pm, Matt Ion <soundy... at gmail.com> wrote:
> jmsa... at aol.com wrote:
> > So here's a question for the group mind...a weird question that my
> > agent asked me, when he noticed it, and I didn't have an answer, so I
> > figured somebody here might.
>
> > If you do a google search -- web or blog -- on my name, and sort date
> > to the most recent, you hit a lot of B5 stuff, some comics stuff, and
> > the like. =A0You see very little on Changeling.
>
> > But if you do a search for Changeling for the same period, and sort
> > date, even though my name is all through those entries, almost none of
> > them showed up on the other Google search, even though Changeling and
> > my name were in the same areas and thus should have been sorted
> > equally.
>
> > It's almost as if Google is weighted to search in some areas, and
> > disregard others. =A0Kind of a weird internet typecasting.
>
> > Whuzzup wit dat?
>
> Search engines generally rank on what searches lead to a certain result,
> rather than simply how often a given word or phrase appears. =A0If ten
> people google your name, and eight click on a B5 result, and two on a
> Changeling result, the B5 results will rank higher on subsequent
> searches... the next time someone searches, they're likely to click on
> the results they see first... and thus keep the B5 hits higher as the
> Changeling hits fall down the list.
>
> Since there were lots and lots of "JMS" searches that led to B5 long
> before Changeling came around, B5 already had a significant head start.
> =A0 People would need to search your name, then bypass the B5, the
> Ghostbusters, the Murder, and everything else that comes up first, and
> click the Changeling links, in order to move it up the ranks.
>
> I don't think (just guessing, really, though a somewhat educated guess)
> that most search engines distinguish names from any other part of speech
> in a body of text. =A0The occurrence of the word "the" is no more likely
> to push a given search up the rankings than the occurrence of the word
> "Joe" or "Straczynski" or "Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious".
>
> The most important factor for any search is how useful the searchers
> find it... thus the ones that are clicked more, get ranked higher, plain
> and simple.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

It ain't the ranking...I mean it doesn't show up at all.

Try it.  Go to blog search.  Type in the name.  Go for a search on
just entries in the last 24 hours, since that'll keep the number
small, sorted by date.  You get lots of B5 hits, but almost no
Changeling hits.

Then try Changeling for the same 24 hour period.  The Changeling hits
will very often have my name, but they never even showed UP on the
prior search.  It ain't a ranking question, they simply aren't there.

Puzzling, that.

jms

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From: Matt Ion <soundy106 at gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 07:58:01 -0700
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jmsatb5 at aol.com wrote:
> On Sep 28, 11:02 pm, Matt Ion <soundy... at gmail.com> wrote:
>> jmsa... at aol.com wrote:
>>> So here's a question for the group mind...a weird question that my
>>> agent asked me, when he noticed it, and I didn't have an answer, so I
>>> figured somebody here might.
>>> If you do a google search -- web or blog -- on my name, and sort date
>>> to the most recent, you hit a lot of B5 stuff, some comics stuff, and
>>> the like.  You see very little on Changeling.
>>> But if you do a search for Changeling for the same period, and sort
>>> date, even though my name is all through those entries, almost none of
>>> them showed up on the other Google search, even though Changeling and
>>> my name were in the same areas and thus should have been sorted
>>> equally.
>>> It's almost as if Google is weighted to search in some areas, and
>>> disregard others.  Kind of a weird internet typecasting.
>>> Whuzzup wit dat?
>> Search engines generally rank on what searches lead to a certain result,
>> rather than simply how often a given word or phrase appears.  If ten
>> people google your name, and eight click on a B5 result, and two on a
>> Changeling result, the B5 results will rank higher on subsequent
>> searches... the next time someone searches, they're likely to click on
>> the results they see first... and thus keep the B5 hits higher as the
>> Changeling hits fall down the list.
>>
>> Since there were lots and lots of "JMS" searches that led to B5 long
>> before Changeling came around, B5 already had a significant head start.
>>   People would need to search your name, then bypass the B5, the
>> Ghostbusters, the Murder, and everything else that comes up first, and
>> click the Changeling links, in order to move it up the ranks.
>>
>> I don't think (just guessing, really, though a somewhat educated guess)
>> that most search engines distinguish names from any other part of speech
>> in a body of text.  The occurrence of the word "the" is no more likely
>> to push a given search up the rankings than the occurrence of the word
>> "Joe" or "Straczynski" or "Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious".
>>
>> The most important factor for any search is how useful the searchers
>> find it... thus the ones that are clicked more, get ranked higher, plain
>> and simple.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
> 
> It ain't the ranking...I mean it doesn't show up at all.
> 
> Try it.  Go to blog search.  Type in the name.  Go for a search on
> just entries in the last 24 hours, since that'll keep the number
> small, sorted by date.  You get lots of B5 hits, but almost no
> Changeling hits.
> 
> Then try Changeling for the same 24 hour period.  The Changeling hits
> will very often have my name, but they never even showed UP on the
> prior search.  It ain't a ranking question, they simply aren't there.
> 
> Puzzling, that.

Are they actually not there, or just coming up so far down the list 
you're not getting to them?

Remember too, if your search settings are to only return "X" number of 
results, it won't show up if it's ranked "X+1".

In any case, as we've seen from other replies, it IS coming up for some 
people, and quite high up the list.  Just speculating, Google may be 
adjusting different people's results based on their own preferences and 
previous searches as well.  I don't know to what extent Google tracks 
user searches, particularly if the users have Google accounts - it may 
be if they search "Changeling" on a regular basis, it will rank higher 
on subsequent searches under that same account, too.  Something like 
that would explain the variety of different results people are seeing.

Speculating some more, maybe if you have Google Desktop Search, it's 
also adjusting results and rankings based on what else it finds on your 
computer...

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From: "jmsatb5 at aol.com" <jmsatb5 at aol.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:29:41 -0700 (PDT)
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Just had someone who's worked with Google explain it to me.  It has to
do with the search algorithms that are used to help prevent spamming,
so that someone who enters "britney spears" won't get immediate hits
to monopolize or jump to the top of the list.  The algorithm changes
over time so that what doesn't show up now will show up later.

It always seems to come down to math....

jms