[LUGSB] SSH Help?

[Ehtesh Choudhury]

You can definitely use mpd. It's quick and painless! There's a bunch of mpd
clients, including a ncurses version called ncmpc. You can easily run this
from putty, and control your music from there. There is very little of a
learning curve; if you need any help you can just use the help option inside
ncmpc. That said, there may be some limitations -- I don't think it has the
same level of features as amaroK (though I've never used amarok, actually).

You don't even need to run 'screen' for mpd -- you can just quit the client
once you're done changing around the music -- and as long as the daemon is
running on the computer, everything should be a-okay.

Try it out. Heck, maybe there's a standalone windows client for mpd?

Now that I think about it, there most likely is. Mpd is a service after all
-- accessible as long as you make it available on the network.

Try it out. There sure seems to be a long list of clients available here:
http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/Clients -- some of them must be available on
Windows.

On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Ilya Sukhanov (dotCOMmie) <
lugsb at sukhanov.net> wrote:

> Tam Nguyen wrote:
>
>> I don't understand why I would need an X server on the windows side,
>> because
>> I'm running the applications on Ubuntu's side, just controlling them from
>> the windows machine. And inside the */etc/ssh/sshd_config file, I've got
>> the
>> X11Forwarding option set to 'yes'*
>>
>
> X is a little bit confusing and might sound backwards to beginners. The
> server
> on X is where the data is actually rendered and the clients are the
> application
> which request things to be drawn. In your case the client is Amarok. Since
> the
> rendering will be done on you windows box you have to have an X server
> installed
> there. If your remote machine was linux based and not windows it would
> already have an X server installed and none of this would be a problem.
>
> For more info about X window check out the wikipedia entry [1] it has some
> interesting info.
>
>  ...
>>
>
>  I've taken the iniative to look around for music players that don't
>> require
>> an GUI...
>>
>
> I regularly use a console based music player called moc [2] (mocp is the
> excutable). Its not as feature-full as amarok but it does work for most
> scenarios. Its also written to be able to run in the background so you don't
> even need to run screen [3] to manage it. I can't say that its the right
> solution for your problem (and neither is amarok) but it is very useful,
> check it out.
>
> For the proper solution you should look into client-server or web-based
> solutions as has been suggested already.
>
>  But the real reason I wanted to do this was because I felt this simple set
>> up would be a good excercise in using ssh.
>>
> >
> > I still don't understand the X
> > server requirement. Shouldn't that X11Forwarding option cover that?
>
> While the exercise is useful, you must remember that SSH has nothing to do
> with
> X. Your exercise is in X, it uses sockets to communicate between Server and
> Client and it does care whether this is over TCP, local-sockets or even
> SSH.
>
> If you want to learn more about SSH I would be happy to give a talk on it.
> But that would be of limited use as your problems are in X. Unfortunately I
> don't know about X to explain all the gritty details of it, Although Adam
> Martin did give an awesome talk on X window two years ago. Maybe you guys
> should invite him back?
>
>  I was following the tutorial on the ubuntu wiki (
>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto), and it didn't mention
>> anything
>> about X servers except for nested windows, or something.
>>
>
> The tutorial assumes you are already running a X server and if you have a
> linux
> desktop that is not such a horrible assumption.
>
> If you are still confused feel free to ask for clarification.
>
> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_window#Design
> [2] http://moc.daper.net/
> [3] http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/
>    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnu_screen
>
>
> PS. While writing this email my X server crashed. I cant remember when the
> last time that happened? Coincidence? Or does X have some mechanism to
> detect that it is being talked about?
>
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