[LUGSB] SSH Help?

[Aaron Pellman-Isaacs]

I used to use mpd to run a music server hooked up to my stereo with a 
php frontend (cutomized off the standard php frontends), which could be 
accessed from anything, anywhere. Always liked it, doesnt have a lot of 
dev work on it these days, but it doesnt really need to
--Aaron
Ehtesh Choudhury wrote:
> You can definitely use mpd. It's quick and painless! There's a bunch 
> of mpd clients, including a ncurses version called ncmpc. You can 
> easily run this from putty, and control your music from there. There 
> is very little of a learning curve; if you need any help you can just 
> use the help option inside ncmpc. That said, there may be some 
> limitations -- I don't think it has the same level of features as 
> amaroK (though I've never used amarok, actually).
>
> You don't even need to run 'screen' for mpd -- you can just quit the 
> client once you're done changing around the music -- and as long as 
> the daemon is running on the computer, everything should be a-okay.
>
> Try it out. Heck, maybe there's a standalone windows client for mpd?
>
> Now that I think about it, there most likely is. Mpd is a service 
> after all -- accessible as long as you make it available on the network.
>
> Try it out. There sure seems to be a long list of clients available 
> here: http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/Clients -- some of them must be 
> available on Windows.
>
> On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Ilya Sukhanov (dotCOMmie) 
> <lugsb at sukhanov.net <mailto:lugsb at sukhanov.net>> wrote:
>
>     Tam Nguyen wrote:
>
>         I don't understand why I would need an X server on the windows
>         side, because
>         I'm running the applications on Ubuntu's side, just
>         controlling them from
>         the windows machine. And inside the */etc/ssh/sshd_config
>         file, I've got the
>         X11Forwarding option set to 'yes'*
>
>
>     X is a little bit confusing and might sound backwards to
>     beginners. The server
>     on X is where the data is actually rendered and the clients are
>     the application
>     which request things to be drawn. In your case the client is
>     Amarok. Since the
>     rendering will be done on you windows box you have to have an X
>     server installed
>     there. If your remote machine was linux based and not windows it
>     would already have an X server installed and none of this would be
>     a problem.
>
>     For more info about X window check out the wikipedia entry [1] it
>     has some interesting info.
>
>         ...
>
>
>         I've taken the iniative to look around for music players that
>         don't require
>         an GUI...
>
>
>     I regularly use a console based music player called moc [2] (mocp
>     is the excutable). Its not as feature-full as amarok but it does
>     work for most scenarios. Its also written to be able to run in the
>     background so you don't even need to run screen [3] to manage it.
>     I can't say that its the right solution for your problem (and
>     neither is amarok) but it is very useful, check it out.
>
>     For the proper solution you should look into client-server or
>     web-based
>     solutions as has been suggested already.
>
>
>         But the real reason I wanted to do this was because I felt
>         this simple set
>         up would be a good excercise in using ssh.
>
>     >
>     > I still don't understand the X
>     > server requirement. Shouldn't that X11Forwarding option cover that?
>
>     While the exercise is useful, you must remember that SSH has
>     nothing to do with
>     X. Your exercise is in X, it uses sockets to communicate between
>     Server and
>     Client and it does care whether this is over TCP, local-sockets or
>     even SSH.
>
>     If you want to learn more about SSH I would be happy to give a
>     talk on it. But that would be of limited use as your problems are
>     in X. Unfortunately I don't know about X to explain all the gritty
>     details of it, Although Adam Martin did give an awesome talk on X
>     window two years ago. Maybe you guys should invite him back?
>
>
>         I was following the tutorial on the ubuntu wiki (
>         https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto), and it didn't
>         mention anything
>         about X servers except for nested windows, or something.
>
>
>     The tutorial assumes you are already running a X server and if you
>     have a linux
>     desktop that is not such a horrible assumption.
>
>     If you are still confused feel free to ask for clarification.
>
>     [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_window#Design
>     [2] http://moc.daper.net/
>     [3] http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/
>        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnu_screen
>
>
>     PS. While writing this email my X server crashed. I cant remember
>     when the last time that happened? Coincidence? Or does X have some
>     mechanism to detect that it is being talked about?
>
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