[LUGSB] I may transfer next fall to SB

Fri May 13 22:40:39 EDT 2011

Agreed and amen :-)

Which reminds me, part of the basis of this thread originally: *is* there a
LUGSB meeting next week? I might actually be free to drop by for once!

Ugh, now back to catching up on a week and half's worth of emails.
--Aaron

On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 10:26 PM, Tony Cai <tony at tonycai.com> wrote:

> I agree with Aaron, I personally have had a great time, I have since
> graduated but still come back weekly to hang out with old friends. Some
> people go about life thinking people are after them. Nothing will ever
> change for those individuals...
>
> On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Aaron Pellman-Isaacs <
> apellman at ic.sunysb.edu> wrote:
>
>> To give an alternate point of view, since the replies have been so
>> negative:
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Hazuki Azuma <azumahazuki at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Stay away from Stony Brook. Injustice happens on a grand scale here, and
>>> there is a lot of anti-Muslim feeling.
>>>
>>> In 2008 I was falsely accused of having made a gun threat...in
>>> 2007...right after there were three embarrassing gun incidents on campus.
>>> They needed a patsy. They chose me. HOW they mistook me for a man no one
>>> knows. Laws were blatantly broke in front of my face, and I was told right
>>> TO my face there was nothing I could do about it.
>>>
>>> I faced a kangaroo court of a "level 3 hearing" and it was only the fact
>>> that I brought in books of the law and read off the ones that had been
>>> violated that stopped them from expelling me outright. The sentence was
>>> reduced to "writing a 15-page paper on what a horrible woman I am and how
>>> I'll never ever do it again."
>>>
>>
>> That's absolutely awful and ridiculous! I can't speak to what happened to
>> you, but I will say I personally have never heard anti-Muslim sentiments
>> expressed on campus. In a school of 25,000 plus faculty, staff, etc you are
>> always going to have some bigoted assholes and I *have* seen people expelled
>> for racial and ethnic discrimination. In general, however, I've found the
>> atmosphere on campus in the years now I've been around to be highly liberal
>> and not particularly discriminatory both among faculty and students.
>>
>> Additionally I know several people who were arrested on campus for a real
>> gun related offense (bb guns that looked like real guns, seen and reported a
>> bit after halloween). They were treated respectfully by the campus police,
>> had fair hearings in Suffolk court, light punishment, and one of them is
>> actually now NYPD, so I can even say that in my experience gun threats seem
>> to be treated rationally on campus.
>>
>> If you truly believe the hearings against you were unfair and racially
>> biased you should find a lawyer and deal with it properly, have you
>> consulted counsel of any kind? There are many groups that will do that kind
>> of work pro bono, hell there are groups on campus that would love to hear
>> about it and do something about it.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> The administration is corrupt as hell.
>>
>>
>> I'd argue it's no more or less corrupt than any other school, do you have
>> any actuary documentation?
>>
>>
>>> The school budget is in shambles
>>
>>
>> Yes, 1000 times yes, though not entirely the school's fault, Albany can go
>> shove their SUNY-raping budget where the sun doesn't shine!
>>
>>
>>> when i left most people were being forcibly tripled well into sophomore
>>> year
>>
>>
>> I know that's true freshman year, but usually not beyond the first sem,
>> particularly with that huge new dorm complex they opened this year and the
>> reopening of the Southampton dorms for this fall. I was there when they
>> started that policy for freshman too btw, got kicked out of my huge double
>> (and got priority housing which = a single for the next semester because of
>> it :-) ) because it got turned into a quad (the room was big enough for it,
>> I always wondered how we snagged it as a double to begin with).
>>
>>
>>>  and the president Shirley Strum-Kenney is an embezzling crook.
>>>
>>
>> Strum Kenney hasn't been pres for a bit now, and I don't recall any
>> instance of embezzling. I didn't like how much money she allocated to the
>> hospital or sports compared to other things but that's a far cry from
>> criminal behavior.
>>
>> My 2C:
>>
>> Stony Brook is what you make of it, like any school. It's a big school,
>> you won't be coddled, you won't have your hand held. If you want to do
>> research you need to talk to the profs yourself. If you want to get involved
>> in stuff on campus (I'll toss in a plug here for the Stony Brook
>> Supercomputing team, which I was on for 4 years, captained for 2, and is
>> currently captained by Jan Kasiak, who to my knowledge is still Pres of
>> LUGSB as well) you have to find it yourself. If you have a grade complaint
>> you have to handle it yourself. The school seems to be working on trying to
>> fix that BTW, advising has certainly gotten better recently from what I've
>> seen.
>>
>> The academics are what you'd expect from a big uni, intro and general
>> courses have large sections, sometimes huge. More specialized courses don't
>> though (my Mathematical Biology class last year had 16 people I believe for
>> example).
>>
>> I've had a lot of fun at Stony Brook though, gotten to do some cool stuff,
>> gotten awesome, funded, research opportunities, had a lot of great classes,
>> and met a lot of cool people. YMMV of course, but I figured I'd toss in an
>> opposing viewpoint. Now back to studying!
>> --Aaron
>>
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