If you had one question to ask JMS, what would it be?
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Subject: If you had one question to ask JMS, what would it be?
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+ 1: Jun 26, 1996: pfingsea at ucunix.san.uc.edu (Erik A Pfingsten )
+ 4: Jun 28, 1996: swd2 at po.CWRU.Edu (Steven W. Difranco)
* 5: Jun 28, 1996: jmsatb5 at aol.com (Jms at B5)
* 6: Jun 28, 1996: jmsatb5 at aol.com (Jms at B5)
+ 13: Jun 28, 1996: jeffv at physics.ubc.ca (Jeff Vavasour)
* 14: Jun 28, 1996: jmsatb5 at aol.com (Jms at B5)
* 15: Jun 28, 1996: jmsatb5 at aol.com (Jms at B5)
+ 30: Jul 1, 1996: richardh at apache.wildstar.net (Richard Hudson)
* 31: Jul 1, 1996: jmsatb5 at aol.com (Jms at B5)
+ 42: Jul 3, 1996: kmoeller at ix.netcom.com (Korey Moeller )
* 43: Jul 3, 1996: jmsatb5 at aol.com (Jms at B5)
+ 52: Jul 4, 1996: bkbragg at mindspring.com (Brian K. Bragg)
* 53: Jul 4, 1996: jmsatb5 at aol.com (Jms at B5)
* 54: Jul 4, 1996: jmsatb5 at aol.com (Jms at B5)
+ 63: Jul 5, 1996: bkbragg at mindspring.com (Brian K. Bragg)
* 64: Jul 5, 1996: jmsatb5 at aol.com (Jms at B5)
* 65: Jul 5, 1996: jmsatb5 at aol.com (Jms at B5)
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From: pfingsea at ucunix.san.uc.edu (Erik A Pfingsten )
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I was looking at all the ATTN JMS posts and started wondering. If you
could ask JMS any ONE question about B5 that he would give a complete,
open, and honest answer about, what would it be? Would it be a really
broad general question (ie. Where is the series going?) or would it be
something really specific (ie. What exactly is the third age of mankind?)?
--
Erik Pfingsten, University of Cincinnati | My shoes are too tight,
E-Mail: pfingsea at ucunix.san.uc.edu <-- | but it doesn't matter because
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WWW: http://ucunix.san.uc.edu/~pfingsea | --Londo Mollari
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From: swd2 at po.CWRU.Edu (Steven W. Difranco)
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In a previous article, pfingsea at ucunix.san.uc.edu (Erik A Pfingsten) says:
>I was looking at all the ATTN JMS posts and started wondering. If you
>could ask JMS any ONE question about B5 that he would give a complete,
>open, and honest answer about, what would it be? Would it be a really
>broad general question (ie. Where is the series going?) or would it be
>something really specific (ie. What exactly is the third age of mankind?)?
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My question would be:
"Exactly what is the relation between the Shadows and the
Vorlons, and how does this impact the Earthers and the other
sentient races of the galaxy?"
But I guess that would be telling.....
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From: jmsatb5 at aol.com (Jms at B5)
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"If I could ask JMS one question and get a complete and truthful answer, I
think it
would be: "What would it take to convince you *not* to retire from
television after
B5?"
1) An anthology show.
2) A B5 spinoff that would be a complement to, not a capitalization upon,
the primary B5 series.
3) Something that would be as revolutionary for TV as the 5-year arc
structure, a project which could change the way TV is done, technically
and story-wise. If you can't top the last thing you did...don't do it.
jms
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From: jmsatb5 at aol.com (Jms at B5)
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"How would the story have differed if it were a written novel rather than
a novel for television."
More descriptions, more internal monologue. More locations off-station.
Larger cast of characters. Shorter arc (5 years at 22 episodes per and 45
pages per script is a hell of a lot more than you can get into any novel
or series of novels.)
jms
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From: jeffv at physics.ubc.ca (Jeff Vavasour)
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In <4r049g$koj at newsbf02.news.aol.com> jmsatb5 at aol.com (Jms at B5) writes:
>1) An anthology show.
>2) A B5 spinoff that would be a complement to, not a capitalization upon,
>the primary B5 series.
>3) Something that would be as revolutionary for TV as the 5-year arc
>structure, a project which could change the way TV is done, technically
>and story-wise. If you can't top the last thing you did...don't do it.
So if you were offered to opportunity to do an anthology series complimenting
B5, in a style that revolutionised the way TV was done, there's no way you
could refuse, right? :-)
- Jeff
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From: jmsatb5 at aol.com (Jms at B5)
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"If you had the choice of _any_ writer, director, cinematographer, etc.,
etc., etc., living or dead, to work on one episode of B-5, who would they
be? What's your ideal, once-in-a-life-time "dream team"?"
Rod Serling, script. (Second choice: Charles Beaumont.) Director: John
Frankenheimer (from his "Seconds" period).
jms
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From: jmsatb5 at aol.com (Jms at B5)
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"The five year arc has created a unique opportunity for other writers.
Babylon 5 is slowly reaching a leave of popularity that will rival that of
Star Trek. But people (at least most people) aren't forming the slavish
devotion to the B5 universe that seems to follow Star Trek. They aren't
afraid to take an objective look at the show and say "I don't like this
episode.""
Let me agree and disagree with you simultaneously. On the disagree side:
I'm on a number of forums where ST fans also tend to congregate, and if
there's an episode they don't like...they say so. With breahtaking
enthusiasm. I think they're savvy enough and discriminating enough to
speak forthrightly.
As for the part where I agree..in the ST series, at the end of the show,
there usually isn't a great deal of ambiguity left to the issues. Our
guys were right, their guys were wrong, and there tend not to be a lot of
ethical loose threads still hanging around. (This shouldn't be taken as a
blanket statement; there are the occasional episodes where you get close
to this, but they're not the norm.)
As a result, you more often get "I did/didn't like this *episode*" as
opposed to a heated debate over the ethical, moral and political issues
involved. That's the danger when your characters always take the moral
high ground, are always right, and rarely if ever make mistakes.
So to follow the thread of logic one step further...because B5 tends to
highlight those areas instead of minimizing them -- neither better nor
worse than the other approach, just a difference -- you end up
pre-selecting for an audience more given to analyze, critique, debate and
in general speak their minds on a variety of levels. There's a lot less
jingoism in the B5 fan community, it seems to me, than in other SF shows,
because there's more ambiguity involved. The lines aren't so clearly
drawn.
Which I think is only terrific.\
jms
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From: richardh at apache.wildstar.net (Richard Hudson)
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bkbragg at mindspring.com (Brian K. Bragg) writes:
>jmsatb5 at aol.com (Jms at B5) wrote:
>>"If I could ask JMS one question and get a complete and truthful answer, I
>>think it
>>would be: "What would it take to convince you *not* to retire from
>>television after
>>B5?"
>>1) An anthology show.
How abut an anthology series based on the works of Harlan Ellison.
>>2) A B5 spinoff that would be a complement to, not a capitalization upon,
>>the primary B5 series.
>>3) Something that would be as revolutionary for TV as the 5-year arc
>>structure, a project which could change the way TV is done, technically
>>and story-wise. If you can't top the last thing you did...don't do it.
>> jms
>Actually I was woundering if someday the arc might just end up
>classified as a literary format like the novel, the autobiography, the
>poem, ect. I never understood why some people were willing to
>classify stage plays as litirature and exclude screne and tele plays.
>Some amazingly deep work has been done in both field, although I think
>television is not so far along as film in this department because it
>is so much more audience sensitive then cinima. Not that making money
>isn't important to film, but it is a lot easier to get funding for a
>one time deal were no one really knows how the audience will react
>until after the project is complete than it is to sustain funding for
>a show that has a small audience. in other words, it is easier to do
>more lireray work in film and easier to cater to the masses in
>television. That's why shows like B5 are so special. They don't
>cater to the masses. They tell their story. I love the structure of
>it. Forshadowing is my favorite literary device because I love trying
>to figuer out what is going to happen next, and I'm never more
>delighted than when I get it completely wrong but look back and the
>forshadowing points in exactely that direction if you look at it
>differantly. I love it when someone throws me a curve ball. Most of
>the time I will watch a show for a while, lose interest and stop
>watching, then later I might come back and pick up where I left off.
>It is disapointing when you are gone for a season or two and come bakc
>and nothing has changed. When you can watch the episodes in any order
>and the only thing that seems displaced is the actors hait cut.
>I am babeling but it is had to express what I have to say. Let me try
>from a differant angel. The five year arc has created a unique
>opportunity for other writers. Babylon 5 is slowly reaching a leave
>of popularity that will rival that of Star Trek. But people (at least
>most people) aren't forming the slavish devotion to the B5 universe
>that seems to follow Star Trek. They aren't afraid to take an
>objective look at the show and say "I don't like this episode.". What
>is happening is that a demand for quality is developing where the
>market was full of brain candy before. If Babylon 5 becomes as much
>of a comecial success as Star Trek, without comprimising its quality,
>then maybe more writers capable of work on this level will be give
>series, and the opportunity to creat literatur instead of fluf.
>As for finding something else as revolutionary to television, I hope
>you can. I don't know what it could be, but then at the moment I
>don't need to because your the one looking and if I did I couldn't say
>it. But let me say this. You posted a message about new tools you
>were adding to yur writting and said that the trick was not to go
>crazy with it and forget your old tools in favor of the new. The old
>tool I'm refering to is the X year arc, and to quote my favorite ST
>character "Remember..."
>As for the sequel series, would it run concurrentaly with the current
>series, or would it begin in 2263 or latter?
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In article <31D4DD0A.4C3D at informix.com>, "David L. Kosenko" <davek at informix.com> writes:
> Jms at B5 wrote:
>> A book of my philosophy about this sort of thing, with anecdotes? I
>> can't imagine anything that could be more boring and self-serving.\
>
> Hey, it's made Robert Fulgham a small fortune. Why not do the same for
> yourself? "Everything I Need to Know I Learned in Writing the Third
> Season of Babylon5".
My favorite bon mot on RF is:
"The subtitle of this book is 'Some Observations from Both Sides of
the Refrigerator Door,' which is appropriate, since it could have been
written by a cabbage, either before or after conversion to coleslaw."
-- Ralph Novak
I couldn't have said it better, except perhaps, to point out that if
you learned everything you really needed to know in kindergarden, there
is something profoundly deficient in your education. :-)
ObB5: A B5 book that might contain, among other things, some of the
things we might have seen, we almost saw, etc. would be worth a read.
larry crawford
lcrawfor at wittenberg.edu
still putting the psycho in psychobiology
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From: jmsatb5 at aol.com (Jms at B5)
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"If you had to do it all over again, what would do you do differently, or
would you even do ANYTHING differently?"
Professionally? No. I wouldn't change a thing.
If "it" includes the personal side...
(he looks off, a long moment, smiles sadly and shakes his head)
There are an infinite number of moments I would like to rewrite, words I'd
recall, opportunities lost I'd give a right arm for one more chance to
take...five minutes when I would've stopped going through my life like a
man late for a bus, missing the moments, because in the final analysis,
the moments are all we have.
Would I do some things in my life differently? Yes. Most definitely.
Goes with the territory.
jms
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From: kmoeller at ix.netcom.com (Korey Moeller )
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In
<Pine.A32.3.92a.960702112005.104826A-100000 at homer16.u.washington.edu>
David Filip <grimlock at u.washington.edu> writes:
>
> Only one question? People have already asked how Control would
>have been handled if Andrea stayed, how WWE and the rest of the series
>would have been with Sinclair, how the story would go without the
folks
>from the pilot movie, etc.
>
> Unfortunately, JMS never answers these questions clearly or in a
>way that helps us to understand how it fits into the plot. I'd like
>to ask *why* he doesn't answer these questions completely.
>
> I can't see the harm in letting us know. JMS has a history of
>keeping spoilers as secrets, so I don't expect him to say, for
example,
>"Talia would have been tickled to death by Draal's green penguin squad
in
>the fourth season, and Sinclair would have been Control. I changed
the
>plot so several Disney characters would kill Londo with a plastic Zima
>bottle instead, and you know how the rest worked out." He can tell us
>what would have happened in the episodes we saw without spoiling
events
>we haven't seen yet. (Sorry if the above constitutes a story idea).
>
> Please JMS, don't ignore this question or answer it with "Yes."
>I really want to know why you avoid those other questions. If you
choose
>to answer the other questions too (re: Control, original characters in
>WWE and the rest of the arc, etc), that would also make my day :)
>
>
>**Just an observation. JMS answers the questions he is asked.
Technically. Not to our satisfaction and maybe not the way we would
like them answered. So I would be VERY careful in phrasing questions,
don't leave loopholes, outs and be careful of your starting
assumptions.
I have to admit I find the answers he gives , if not instructive, at
least entertaining. Classic example, check out the 'can you confirm
this' thread that has been on the last week.
kjm
>
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From: jmsatb5 at aol.com (Jms at B5)
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"Unfortunately, JMS never answers these questions clearly or in a way that
helps us to understand how it fits into the plot. I'd like to ask *why*
he doesn't answer these questions completely."
Sometimes I do. Sometimes I don't. I do more times than I don't. So
your premise is flawed at the core of it, thus any resulting comments from
me would only range further afield into even greater inaccuracy.
jms
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From: bkbragg at mindspring.com (Brian K. Bragg)
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kmoeller at ix.netcom.com (Korey Moeller ) wrote:
>Where did you hear Sheridan was not part of the arc from the beginning?
>If this is an assumption based on the fact we didn't hear about him in
>season 1, I would say that's not a good assumption. This is a 5 year
>story, why would it be expected that all the twists would be out there
>in the first year? I believe there are a number of events in season 1
>that made Sheridan necessary and not an after-thought.
>kjm
Read the FAQ at www.hyperion.com. He got the idea because JMS
statemented that that was the case
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From: jmsatb5 at aol.com (Jms at B5)
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"Mr. Straczynski, what is most important in your life, why do you consider
it important, what are you willing and unwilling to sacrifice to attain
and/or maintain that which you consider most important, and how has this
affected your writing (including BABYLON 5) and life in general?"
Yeesh....
Okay, in something resembling the order asked:
The work. The writing. It's the only thing I'm worth a damn at doing.
I'm willing to sacrifice anything that is of myself specifically, and
unwilling to make anybody else pay that price. I won't walk over somebody
else to take a job, and I won't compromise on my standards or (if I can
use this word) the art involved. I won't sacrifice control or quality for
security; I've walked off half a dozen jobs on principle in the last ten
years or so. I don't hold that up in search of applause; it's not
something that served me well, it made my life harder, it was probably
financially and career-wise stupid...but it's how I'm hardwired. I don't
have much choice.
To the "of myself" part...best example: when I was working to break in as
a writer, I didn't earn a lot of money, never more than about $3,000 a
year IF that much, and it was often close to my sole source of income at
times. Very often I had to choose between food and writing supplies. I
chose the latter every time. I got by on beef jerky and Mountain Dew for
days at a time. At one point I dropped down to about 150 pounds, even at
my current height of almost 6'5". I looked like a refugee from Dachau.
(A photo of me at this time got printed as an illustration for my colulmn
in Writer's Digest a year or two ago...very bad.)
The writing was all that mattered. The work is all that has *ever*
mattered. And if that meant getting by on beef jerky, and not going out,
and dropping every dime on typewriter ribbons and Liquid Paper and
stationery and postage, then that's what was done. In retrospect, it was
stupid...I was of the mindset of, "Either I'll make it, or I'll crash and
burn," but I didn't know any other way. And I'd probably do it again.
How it's affected my life...some you've just read above. I'm a very hard
person to get to know. I'm constantly working stuff through for the
current script, the next story, the new book. In an interview with
Richard Biggs published in a UK magazine, he commented that whenever he
sees me, at lunch, I'm off by myself, "a million miles away. I don't know
where he is, but it's nowhere near reality."
I'm a perfectionist, I won't settle for less than absolute 100% effort,
and thus tend not to accept less in others. Consequently, I'm a pain in
the ass. I don't have a lot of friends, mainly because I don't have time
for much outside the work. I'll meet someone, we'll get along, in will
come an invitation to a dinner party, I'll have deadlines, or meetings, or
revisions to do, and I won't go or I'll just forget (I have a 64K brain in
a 3gigabyte profession), and after you do this enough times...the
invitations understandably stop coming. When I'm caught in the white-heat
of a project, everything else goes by the boards. Finding the right
words, the _mot just_ is extremely difficult, and if I'm on a roll, and
it's finally coming, and I get interrupted...I can get cranky.
My life is my work, my work is my writing, and my writing is my life.
That reads as awfully indulgent and pretentious, and maybe it is. But as
Henry Kissinger once noted, "it has the added benefit of being true." If
the universe said, tomorrow, "You can't write anymore," there'd be a
pause, then a puff of purple smoke...and I'd disappear.
jms
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From: jmsatb5 at aol.com (Jms at B5)
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"Why have you chosen not to tell us how WWE or the Talia/Control situation
would have been handled if Sheridan had not been introduced and/or Andrea
wanted to stick with the show for as long as she could?"
For the reason that it may not have changed as much as you think it
might've.
For the reason that a writer never publishes his rough draft. Any time a
writer writes a novel, by the time you're halfway through you're learning
things, and changing your mind about stuff, and coming up with better
ideas...it's a *process*, rememer...and as you hit these things, you jump
back into the earlier parts of the book and edit and revise and realign so
it all hangs together, and the first part is made better by what you know
of the latter parts. The reader never sees those parts.
Nor should they. Any more than the audience should see the fumbling part
of a magician's education when he's still trying to get that rabbit/hat
thing worked out. Any more than he should stop in the middle of a
performance and tell them how he got to this point.
And frankly, it's taxing enough just keeping all the permutations of the
current story going smoothly without dragging in possibilities of other
permutations.
jms
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From: bkbragg at mindspring.com (Brian K. Bragg)
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denebeim at deepthot.cary.nc.us (Jay Denebeim) wrote:
>IMO, to achieve greatness, you HAVE to be a fanatic.
Some thing are more important than greatness to me. I guess I'm just
not ambitious enough, but I would rather be happy. Still, I have at
times been miserable because I do right, and that can make you happy
to. But I have to have a life outside my work or the work is
meaningless. I create to live rather than live to create. Subtle
differance, but I still from time to time do damn good work, or so
people tell me. I don't think I've ever been satisfied. I stop
working on a piece when the nausia, headache and insomnia get to the
point where I can't take it any more. If it happens to have an ending
at that point I show it around, if not I come back and finish later,
when the anxiety attacks stop. But like I said, I was using myself as
an example to make a point. I didn't want to get into a discusion of
my writing ect. That can wait a few years until there is a news group
dedicated to my work. I'm here to talk about JMS's work.
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From: jmsatb5 at aol.com (Jms at B5)
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"Of course, this makes it all the more imperative that you one day have
offspring, Joe, so that decades from now we'll all be shelling out for the
18th volume in the "History of Babylon 5" series, edited and compiled by
said progeny."
Blecch...one more reason I'm glad I had a vasectomy.
jms
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From: jmsatb5 at aol.com (Jms at B5)
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"It is said that a fanatic will redouble his efforts, but lose sight of
his goal. From what I have just read, you are starting to sound like a
fanatic. Maybe I shouldn't say this, but sticking my foot in my mouth
seems to be a genetic defect we both share. I am not sure I would like to
see any show written by a fanatic."
Don't know many writers, do you?
I care passionately about my work. If that passion makes me a fanatic,
then I'm a fanatic and proud of it. I've been this way all my life, and
it's a little late to go changing things now. It's a choice that works
for me. Your mileage may vary.
jms
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