JMS's insult re. Shadows vs. Vorlons

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Subject: JMS's insult re. Shadows vs. Vorlons
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+  1: Jul 13, 1996: Francis Szot <szot at bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us>
+  4: Jul 14, 1996: faa35 at dial.pipex.com (Jeannette Simpson)
*  5: Jul 14, 1996: jmsatb5 at aol.com (Jms at B5)

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From: Francis Szot <szot at bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us>
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Spoilers for War Without End and Ship of Tears 














Spoilers for those of you who have the pleasure of being residents of the UK
















I read that Strazinski said 1/3 of us are going to agree with the Shadows 
vs. the Vorlons?!



That's pretty hard to swallow . . . . I mean *if it's true* that 1/3 will 
go that way and back the Shadows . . . . that's hard to swallow.


Consider just a few of the major differences between them regarding how 
they conduct themselves  - - - -




   //Manipulation//

The Vorlons manipulate younger species by appearing as angelic creatures.

The Shadows manipulate younger species by inciting them to go to war with 
their neighbors.



   //Spaceships//

Vorlons form a symbiotic bond with living space vehicle.

The Shadows kidnap telepaths to insert into psyber-spaceships.  For the 
telepaths it is a sentence to a living hell inside the battle crab.



  //Tactics//

Vorlons are protective of their home territory; *no incursions* into other 
species' space.

Shadows unleash unprovoked attacks of enormous, genocidal lethality.  
Even supposed allied species are destroyed when the Shadows double-cross 
them with an unstoppable assault . . . assault . . . assault!



   //Attributes//

When a human (telepath or not) gets really close to a Vorlon: amazing, 
enchanting, beautiful psychic communion.

The major characteristics of the Shadow creature (or their servants, 
like Morden) when encountered by a human telepath: horrible, screaming 
psychic revulsion!



 //And only slightly off-topic; What does the fabulous Ambassador Delenn 
            have to say about the contest?//

Delenn has enormous respect for the Vorlons, and I'm with Delenn.

Delenn hates the Shadows, and I'm with Delenn.




IMHO, if JMS *really* thinks that 1/3 of B5 viewers will be sympathetic 
to the tactics of the Shadows, he has a very low opinion of our moral 
standards.  I hope he is wrong, because otherwise *I* would be wrong in 
thinking that we've been insulted, and that would mean that "The Shadows" 
really, actually *are* here already.



I can't buy *any* plot twist that would cause me to stop wanting the 
absolute extermination of the vile monsters that the Shadows have shown 
themselves to be.  I even don't care if JMS eventually, somehow positions
the Vorlons as a menace.  Then I'll just withdraw my affection for the
Vorlons. The Shadows are *still* going down, regardless of what the 
Vorlons may turn out to be.


I'm with Delenn, Sheridan, and Sinclair/Valenn.


Going on what I know right now, if it was within my power, I'd *never* allow 
the Shadows to remain alive.  And the only thing that keeps me from 
saying that I could never change my mind *in any way* is that one of my 
favorite observations about Life is . . .   "You never know . . ."


But we have to make a stand for what we believe in.   So . . .


Death to the Shadows!

Now, more than ever!

Blast  Za'ahh'doom into dust!

Long live Kosh!

Keep it up, JMS!  You are a freakin' genius.



> > Dr. Lightning
> > szot at bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us



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From: faa35 at dial.pipex.com (Jeannette Simpson)
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Francis Szot <szot at bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us> wrote:

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>Spoilers for War Without End and Ship of Tears 














>Spoilers for those of you who have the pleasure of being residents of the UK

Why thank you :-)














>I read that Strazinski said 1/3 of us are going to agree with the Shadows 
>vs. the Vorlons?!

>IMHO, if JMS *really* thinks that 1/3 of B5 viewers will be sympathetic 
>to the tactics of the Shadows,

I think JMS was talking about the Shadows' motives rather than their
tactics...the end may justify the means.

>.... he has a very low opinion of our moral 
>standards.  I hope he is wrong, because otherwise *I* would be wrong in 
>thinking that we've been insulted, and that would mean that "The Shadows" 
>really, actually *are* here already.

Oh, but they *are* here and have been for along time. And it will take
a lot of personal integrity for some of us to admit even to ourselves
that we just might, sometime in our lives, have carried this little
shadow in our soul, at least until we beat it back down again. Somehow
I suspect that this is going to get people *really* thinking and
talking.

So, Joe, is this the aspect of the story that you were told you were
out of your mind to attemp to show on television?

Jeannette




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From: jmsatb5 at aol.com (Jms at B5)
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"IMHO, if JMS *really* thinks that 1/3 of B5 viewers will be sympathetic 
to the tactics of the Shadows, he has a very low opinion of our moral
standards."

It does...and doesn't...have anything much to do with morality. 
It's...hard to explain until you've seen the last few eps.

And note, I didn't say *tactics*.  I said *motives*.


 jms




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