JMS on CompuServe (May 23, 1996) *POSSIBLE SPOILERS*
Brent Barrett
bbarrett at speedlink.com
Thu May 23 14:12:13 EDT 1996
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[ Summary of subjects in this section: ]
Sb: #510132-#B5 Music Video
Sb: #510157-<WWE II>
Sb: #510176-<WWE 2> - My Head Hurts
Sb: #510187->>Interludes<<
Sb: #510238-WWE PART ONE
Sb: #510244-JMS: Renewal? Y or N?
Sb: #510528-<War Without End>
Sb: #510562-I&E Thought
Sb: #510493-#US tapes vs Brit tapes?
Sb: #510547-WWE2 (slight spoiler)
Sb: #510541-<<Time Travel Ques.>>
Sb: #510588-Joe an atheist?
Sb: #510649-US tapes vs Brit tapes?
Sb: #510685-<<War Without End>>
Sb: #510604-<WWE-crystal formation>
Sb: #510598-<<WWE2 - Spoilers & ? >>
Sb: #510671->>WWE: I and II<<
Sb: #510676-B5 renewed?
[ Summary: This poster saw a B5 music video at Marcon and asks if it will be
made available to the public. ]
#: 510259 S6/Babylon 5: Upcoming
22-May-96 12:29:14
Sb: #510132-#B5 Music Video
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
The video is something we'd like to release eventually, but still have
to negotiate the right to do so with actors and others involved.
jms
[ Summary: A long, but well written story of one SF fan learning to
truely respect and appreciate Babylon 5. ]
#: 510260 S6/Babylon 5: Upcoming
22-May-96 12:29:16
Sb: #510157-<WWE II>
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
Thank you. I agree, in the beginning of the show, there was the
occasional rough spot; when you're trying to do something nobody's really ever
done before, there's a certain amount of trial and error. But we learn *real*
fast.
Thanks again.
jms
#: 510176 S6/Babylon 5: Upcoming
22-May-96 08:00:13
Sb: #<WWE 2> - My Head Hurts
Fm: JEFF FRANK
Joe:
Loved WWE but my head is still spinning with some of the time travel stuff;
particularly the bit with Delenn giving Sheridan the time stabilizer and
Zathras giving her the fixed one. Have I got this right: Delenn saw John
attempting to synch back up so gave up her stabilizer for him; this caused
her to become unstuck and put her in the space suit so that Zathras could
give her the repaired stabilizer when she appeared later; Delenn was "missing"
from the time she stuck her head out of the hole until Zathras gave her the
stabilizer and no one noticed?
Fave line (OK, the one that's sticking with me at the moment): "You finite.
Zathras finite. This wrong tool."
How long was B4 in the past before the Minbari showed up to search it?
Obviously long enough for the 2 Vorlons to show up, but how long was that?
Time travel make Jeff head hurt.
Jeff
Sigh Corps - Pat Tallman Division
Dictator of Michigan and the Great Lakes Region
Auditor General
Fear RMES! - Everywhere for *your* convenience
#: 510261 S6/Babylon 5: Upcoming
22-May-96 12:29:17
Sb: #510176-<WWE 2> - My Head Hurts
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
Yes, you're correct about the Delenn material; she left the ship to do
this, and not that much time had passed. It was, in fact, to check on Delenn
that Marcus was coming out as well.
jms
#: 510187 S6/Babylon 5: Upcoming
22-May-96 08:08:54
Sb: #507854-#>>Interludes<<
Fm: THE JAWA / JAWA #2
(You enjoy that, don't you?)
I'm very confused about something in "WWE1": if B4 has already been
taken to the past, why do they need to do it again?
I'm sorry--I like this a lot, but timelines really screw me up....
The Jawa
Kidism Patrol
The Jawa Relocation Project?
#: 510262 S6/Babylon 5: Upcoming
22-May-96 12:29:18
Sb: #510187->>Interludes<<
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
Because it was they who took it back, at this point; if they didn't do
it, then they wouldn't have done it.
jms
[ Summary: Asks if the effect of a beaten-up Ivanova was expensive to do. ]
#: 510263 S6/Babylon 5: Upcoming
22-May-96 12:29:20
Sb: #510238-WWE PART ONE
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
It's not expensive per se, but it is time consuming.
jms
[ Summary: Asks when JMS will hear about season four. ]
#: 510264 S5/Babylon 5: General
22-May-96 12:33:40
Sb: #510244-JMS: Renewal? Y or N?
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
We should hear in the next few weeks; we have to know by June 10th or so
in order to pick up the actors' contracts.
jms
#: 510528 S6/Babylon 5: Upcoming
22-May-96 22:41:45
Sb: #<War Without End>
Fm: AUTOMEDIA, INC.
Hello, Joe!
I just had to comment on how much I enjoyed "War Without End." Part 2 was,
IMHO, the finest hour of TV I've ever viewed (followed closely by "Severed
Dreams" :-).
I'm a sucker for the Delenn/Sheridan thread, so you really hit the right chords
with me in that aspect, and the rest of it just worked so well.
One question, though: You've said before that there's often (if not always)
some footage that gets filmed but doesn't make it into the episode. Is that
also the case with WwE (1 and/or 2)? If so, would you be able to comment on
the scenes cut or is that right out?
Once again, congrats on a 10.0 episode and tell Bruce & Mira (and Peter!) that
they did outstanding jobs!
Thanks.
-- Brent Barrett
#: 510590 S6/Babylon 5: Upcoming
23-May-96 00:18:37
Sb: #510528-<War Without End>
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
Thanks. There were a few small bits cut out of WWE2, but at this late
remove, I honestly can't remember what they were now. It's all a blur....
jms
[ Asks if Londo will ever uncover the truth about Morden's role in Adira's
death. ]
#: 510591 S6/Babylon 5: Upcoming
23-May-96 00:18:38
Sb: #510562-I&E Thought
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
Anything's possible.
jms
[ Summary: Asks why tapes are available in the U.K. but not the U.S. ]
#: 510592 S5/Babylon 5: General
23-May-96 00:18:39
Sb: #510493-#US tapes vs Brit tapes?
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
WB thinks there isn't a market in the US.
jms
[ Summary: The poster loved "War Without End," but asks, "Has Sinclair,
Delenn, and Sheridan gone too far?" He goes on to wonder if maybe their
actions put the universe out of whack, and Morden & Company are just
trying to fix it. ]
#: 510593 S6/Babylon 5: Upcoming
23-May-96 00:18:40
Sb: #510547-WWE2 (slight spoiler)
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
Thanks. No, that's not it; you're right, it'd make the story 'way too
convoluted. But Delenn may have made some questionable decisions at various
points.
jms
#: 510541 S6/Babylon 5: Upcoming
22-May-96 23:02:24
Sb: #<<Time Travel Ques.>>
Fm: RAE AUGENSTEIN
Is the time travel that Sheridan experienced to the Centari homeworld different
from the time flashes experienced by Garibladi, Delenn, Krantz, and others on
Babylon 4?
Garibaldi et al seemed to experience a flash in which they viewed a past or
future event almost as from above. (Zathras: "Time flash. See yourself forward
or backward in time.") However, in Sheridan's time travels he was aware of the
time travel and interacted with others, telling Delenn it wasn't really him,
etc.
If these flashes are different, then is the Sheridan of 2278(?) dead, lost, or
just somewhere else? It doesn't appear that 2260 Sheridan "leaped" into 2278
Sheridan's body. And both Londo and Delenn were obviously suprised to see him.
So 2260 Sheridan and 2278 Delenn are headed toward a Centauri ship when
Sheridan blips out again. Does Delenn continue on the mission alone?
(And then 1985 Marty and 1885 Doc... <g>)
Rae ^^^^
Check out my B5 episode guide at:
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Rae_
#: 510594 S6/Babylon 5: Upcoming
23-May-96 00:18:43
Sb: #510541-<<Time Travel Ques.>>
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
No, Sheridan "leapt" into his future self, hence the difference in
wardrobe and appearance. Londo wasn't suprised to see him. If you recall the
Centauri guard when we first arrive in the Palace, he says, "I think he's awake
again, would you like to see?" The implication being that he's been beaten
into unconsciousness, hence Londo's line, "Welcome back from the abyss." It
was at that moment of unconsciousness that he "slid" into his future self.
jms
#: 510588 S5/Babylon 5: General
23-May-96 00:17:16
Sb: #510079-#Joe an atheist?
Fm: CATHY HOLLEY
no prob then. However, as long as you are going to believe in God, you might
as well believe that He is able to do things you don't understand and can't
comprend. :)
It does amaze me at the number of people who don't believe in God, or in some
sort of designer of the universe. If you saw a house in a forest, full of
furniture, but made entirely of foresty stuff, would you conclude that the
house formed on it's own? without a designer?
And yet, you miss the tree.... which is _far_ more complicated than a house.
cathy
#: 510720 S5/Babylon 5: General
23-May-96 05:11:21
Sb: #510588-Joe an atheist?
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
Yes, I've heard the "looking at a house" notion...and I've also noted the
Rohrscharch test, in which you look at random drawings, and the human mind,
which seeks out patterns, takes that which has no meaning and puts a meaning
onto it.
jms
[ Summary: Asks to whom at WB she should write to complain about the
lack of videos in the U.S. ]
#: 510722 S5/Babylon 5: General
23-May-96 05:20:58
Sb: #510649-US tapes vs Brit tapes?
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
Won't work. They're immobile.
jms
#: 510685 S6/Babylon 5: Upcoming
23-May-96 02:17:32
Sb: #<<War Without End>>
Fm: MERYL YOURISH
Joe, a question about the stream-like thing that hit Sheridan.
I just finished watching "Knives" again. Was the white ray (or whatever) in
WWE1related to the being that got inside Sheridan during "Knives," or was it
just the effect of blowing up a fusion reactor?
#: 510724 S6/Babylon 5: Upcoming
23-May-96 05:21:00
Sb: #510685-<<War Without End>>
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
No, that was just the result of the blast.
jms
[ Summary: Another user pipes up to say that he too thought the
architecture on Minbar look Vorlonesque. Asks why Rathenn didn't seem
bothered by a totally vague and confusing answer from the Vorlon
concerning Sinclair. ]
#: 510725 S6/Babylon 5: Upcoming
23-May-96 05:21:03
Sb: #510604-<WWE-crystal formation>
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
After a while, you get used to that from Vorlons.
jms
[ Summary: A lurker pops up to comment that JMS once said, "If you see more
than one Vorlon at a time - RUN!" He counted two at the end of "War
Without End." ]
#: 510726 S6/Babylon 5: Upcoming
23-May-96 05:21:05
Sb: #510598-<<WWE2 - Spoilers & ? >>
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
No, when you see a LOT of vorlons together, that's when it's time to run
like hell.
jms
#: 510671 S6/Babylon 5: Upcoming
23-May-96 01:39:37
Sb: #>>WWE: I and II<<
Fm: TONI MULLER
Just watched parts I and II together tonight and they were even better than the
first time. I laughed just as much at Zathras' comments as before - great
writing.
The attention to detail was incredible. Clouds moving on Minbar, Lennier's
pose when Delenn recited the "we are grey" mantra. Many other things that
would take too long to list.
A few questions:
1. Was that a Minbari in _shorts_ in the opening scenes of Minbar!?! I
thought they all wore long robes or loose-fitting pants.
2. Where was Sinclair all those 900 years between his existence as Valen and
his birth as Jeffrey David Sinclair? Or was he nowhere, existing only at the
closing and opening of the loop, being born in the future and dying in the
past?
3. When Zathras said he was 110 years old, was that human years or his own
race's years? He seems to know an awful lot for having been around only 110
human years!
One nit which I caught after watching Babylon Squared:
Delenn's sleve in Babylon Squared is different than the one in WWE. (Now I
know I'm a B5 fanatic since I notice silly details like these.)
I am _so_ glad I started watching B5 just partway into season one. You have
never failed to make worthwhile my efforts to keep watching.
Toni
#: 510727 S6/Babylon 5: Upcoming
23-May-96 05:21:06
Sb: #510671->>WWE: I and II<<
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
No, I don't believe anyone on Minbar was wearing shorts. It's not the
season for that.
As for Valen, he died about 900 years ago, our time. He lived to be well
over a hundred years old.
jms
[ Summary: Asks when we will hear about renewal. ]
#: 510728 S6/Babylon 5: Upcoming
23-May-96 05:21:09
Sb: #510676-B5 renewed?
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
We should know soon.
jms
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