JMS on CompuServe (Sep 02, 1996) *POSSIBLE SPOILERS*
Brent Barrett
bbarrett at speedlink.com
Tue Sep 3 03:07:34 EDT 1996
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[ Summary of subjects in this section: ]
Sb: #569873-B5 FAN CLUB INFO!
Sb: #570605-Would they tell you?
Sb: #570967-Hugo Award
Sb: #571046-Dead after a week? :-)
Sb: #571066-B5 Wins 1996 Hugo!
Sb: #570411-#WWE: Vorlons in the Past
Sb: #571103-#Shadow Dancing CUT
Sb: #569879-B5 CD screen saver etc
Sb: #570907-#B5 Wins 1996 Hugo!
[ Summary: Asks if he should be worried about a lack of Fan Club material
at this point if his check cleared in April. ]
#: 571338 S5/Babylon 5: General
02-Sep-96 19:51:34
Sb: #569873-B5 FAN CLUB INFO!
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
They're going out in clumps, batches of newsletters, then batches of
kits, and so on until they're caught up. Apparently almost all of the stuff
should be out within the next week or so.
jms
[ Summary: Asks if B5 will be on the new U.K. Warner Brothers channel on
the Sky system. ]
#: 571339 S5/Babylon 5: General
02-Sep-96 19:51:36
Sb: #570605-Would they tell you?
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
No one's told me about it, and it would probably conflict with their
standing license with C4, which has first rights to the show.
jms
#: 570967 S5/Babylon 5: General
02-Sep-96 06:04:23
Sb: #Hugo Award
Fm: ANNE L. WARNER
Hey, Joe,
Wilma posted the Hugo Award winners in SF Lit this morning...
>> Best Dramatic Presentation: "The Coming of Shadows" (Babylon 5) (Warner
Brothers) J. Michael Straczynski, Douglas Netter, John Copeland, producers; J.
Michael Straczynski, screenplay; Janet Greek, director <<
If my limited memory of Hugo history is correct, this is the first TV episode
to win since City on the Edge of Forever (I hope I remembered the title
exactly! <giggle>) the Harlan Ellison written Classic Trek episode.
I know everyone here wants to add our congratulations. I'm so pleased to see
this. You and all the cast and crew deserve this recognition, and much, much
more.
Well done! Congrats! <dancing jig of delight around room>
Anne
#: 571340 S5/Babylon 5: General
02-Sep-96 19:51:38
Sb: #570967-Hugo Award
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
Actually, no, two episodes of TNG also got Hugos.
But what *is* significant here is that in 43 years, only 7 Hugos have
gone to dramatic TV series; 3 to the original Twilight Zone, 4 to Star Trek
(old and new). This is the first Hugo in 43 years to go to a science fiction
TV series other than TZ or ST.
jms
#: 571046 S5/Babylon 5: General
02-Sep-96 10:21:13
Sb: #Dead after a week? :-)
Fm: BRENT BARRETT
Howdy, Joe;
Well, it's been a week now, and I see that you've been quiet on the nets the
last few days. Has the first week been that hectic? :-) How did everyone in
the cast & crew feel about being back for year four?
Talk to you later,
-- Brent
#: 571341 S5/Babylon 5: General
02-Sep-96 19:51:40
Sb: #571046-Dead after a week? :-)
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
Was offline in Anaheim for Worldcon, that's all.
jms
#: 571066 S5/Babylon 5: General
02-Sep-96 10:41:17
Sb: #B5 Wins 1996 Hugo!
Fm: RICK SHARON
Joe,
re: The B5 episode "The Coming of Shadows" won the 1996 Hugo award for Best
Dramatic Presentation. The audience went wild. JMS seemed Thrilled <g>.
The balloting details are:
895 ballots counted for Dramatic Presentation.
Nom Final
1st "The Coming Of Shadows" (B5) 93 457
2nd "Apollo 13" 122 355
(etc).
Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes!
Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes!
Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes!
Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes!
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!
(Thank you Dupa for sharing the news!)
Hooray, congratulations Joe!!!!! You and your team have earned this one - big
time!! Way to go Joe and company!!!!!! There is some justice in this world
after all (About friggin time!!!).
I can't wait to see how this year's episode(s) do in the next round of
balloting (Messages From Earth, Severed Dreams, the final 4?). Yeah, Coming Of
Shadows -was- great for it's time but, I feel you've surpassed it in later
episodes (and will surpass them, and will surpass them, and will ...).
"Hey Hugo voters: Yeah, "The Coming Of Shadows" -was- great but,
just wait, the best is yet to come - just keep watching...if
you're up to it!"
Joe, A Toast (raise a glass of whatever you're sipping):
May this be the first drop of the downpour of awards you and your
team have so rightly earned.
Yet, may that downpour NOT jeopardize the "low-profile-so-we-can-do-pretty
much-what-we-need-to-instead-of-cow-towing-to-the-'suits'" power base
you work from. Although you may not be at Burger King, may you
continue ... to always ... "have it your way". <big grin>
(In other words, I hope your peers and fans continue to pour on the praise you
so richly deserve, that it does increase your power to "go for it" - "your way"
esp. telling B5 the way it needs to be told, even that it helps empower you to
pursue whatever else you want to do after B5 (but, of course, NOT until AFTER
season 5 <g>).
Yet, at the same time, I hope that the accolades do not attract enough
"attention" to bring on the "outside tinkerers" like network execs or
advertisers that think they know how to "improve" B5 (you and your team are
doing very well on your own, thank you very much). Or, should that be,
generate so much attention that "the suits" & etc. will be smart enough (or
intimidated enough?) to back off because they know they'd kill the goose laying
the golden eggs. Whichever provides the strongest basis for your continued
success, I hope the accolades help that, not hurt it).
Way to go Joe!!! I'm proud, elated, excited for you. Way to go!
Have a GREAT day - winning a Hugo has to be a good start.
--Rick Sharon
#: 571342 S5/Babylon 5: General
02-Sep-96 19:51:43
Sb: #571066-B5 Wins 1996 Hugo!
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
Thanks. The Hugo is a marvelous reward to everyone who's worked so hard
on the show these last 3+ years. We're very proud.
jms
[ Summary: Asks how the Vorlons who were present when the Minbari found
Babylon 4 could've known about the station. Thinks the Vorlons must be
able to communicate backward in time. ]
#: 571344 S6/Babylon 5: Spoilers
02-Sep-96 19:51:47
Sb: #570411-#WWE: Vorlons in the Past
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
Well, the other obvious solution, since the Vorlons were then out and
running around and actively involved in the war of that time period, he just
sent out a signal, and they got there first.
jms
#: 571103 S6/Babylon 5: Spoilers
02-Sep-96 13:06:11
Sb: #Shadow Dancing CUT
Fm: DARRAN WILLIAMS
Joe,
First of all, congratulations on the Hugo.
Second, Channel 4 over here in the UK have confirmed that 7 seconds will be cut
from Shadow Dancing to remove a stabbing in a fight scene. Whilst I agree this
is a far better result than I was expecting from Channel 4 (who have edited out
a lot more in the past), can you tell us whether this edit is vital to the
story or is likely to go unnoticed.
Thanks in advance
Darran..
#: 571349 S6/Babylon 5: Spoilers
02-Sep-96 19:51:58
Sb: #571103-#Shadow Dancing CUT
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
If they cut 7 seconds, it's likely the 7 seconds of the actual stabbing
itself, which is implicit in what happens afterward, so it shouldn't have a
major effect on being able to follow the story. It's a reasonable edit, and
about what I'd expect given the general attitudes on TV violence among the UK
TV networks.
jms
[ Summary: One poster responds to another and comments that he feels
"ripped off" that actions sequences with the characters were not
included on the CD-ROM. ]
#: 571353 S5/Babylon 5: General
02-Sep-96 20:08:08
Sb: #569879-B5 CD screen saver etc
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
The CD rom has permission for all the cast photos used in the screen
saver, and there are literally dozens of them there. But under SAG rules,
there are strong limitations on secondary use of full-motion clips of the
actors speaking or acting in scenes from the show. If they were put on this CD
rom, the cost of licensing the clips from SAG would make it too expensive to
buy or produce.
jms
#: 570907 S5/Babylon 5: General
01-Sep-96 23:07:05
Sb: #B5 Wins 1996 Hugo!
Fm: SYSOP DUPA T PARROT
The B5 episode "The Coming of Shadows" won the 1996 Hugo award for Best
Dramatic Presentation. The audience went wild. JMS seemed Thrilled <g>.
Congratulations to JMS and the cast and crew of Babylon 5!
The balloting details are:
895 ballots counted for Dramatic Presentation.
Nom Final
1st "The Coming Of Shadows" (B5) 93 457
2nd "Apollo 13" 122 355
3rd "12 Monkeys" 59 160
4th "Toy Story" 79 76
5th "The Visitor" (ST:DS9) 30 60
6th No Award 15
"Nom" is the number of nominations received.
"Final" is the final number of votes cast.
-SysOp Dupa T. Parrot, Team SF/F
#: 571354 S5/Babylon 5: General
02-Sep-96 20:08:10
Sb: #570907-#B5 Wins 1996 Hugo!
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
What's interesting, in noting the number of votes in the nominations, is
that if we hadn't withdrawn the second Hugo nominated B5 episode, "The Fall of
Night," DS9 wouldn't have had a nomination at all. They moved into the
nominations when we withdrew "FoN."
jms
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