JMS CIS Digest: 18-Sep-99 18:33 through 18-Sep-99 18:33 (2 msgs)
John D. Hardin
jhardin at wolfenet.com
Sun Sep 19 09:30:13 EDT 1999
RFC 1153 Digest of messages from
J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
18-Sep-99 18:33 through 18-Sep-99 18:33 (2 messages)
WARNING: This digest may contain information about shows
you haven't seen yet ("spoilers"). Proceed with caution.
Subjects in digest:
Sci Fi Channel Poll
Administrivia:
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With the end of Crusade and the great reduction in the volume of
posts by JMS, I have decided the time has come to discontinue
production of the Digest. I will continue to collect and repost any
JMS traffic through at least the end of September, but unless SciFi
(or somebody) picks up Crusade and the message volume increases the
Digest will end no later than the end of this year. What a ride it
has been!
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Date: 17 Sep 1999 10:31:07 -0700
From: Bob Ingria <70373.1164 at compuserve.com>
To: J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
Subject: Sci Fi Channel Poll
Message-ID: <forum.babylon5.71409 at compuserve.com>
References: <forum.babylon5.71404 at compuserve.com>
>
Though anything in SFX regarding B5 or TNT is going to be specious at
best. When they exceeded the snark-limit, early when Crusade was still
in production, with endless cheap personal shots and the like, we
phantom zoned them, meaning they were cut off from press kits, photos,
and interviews... after which they would take any possible opportunity
to go after me or my shows.
>>>
What is it with SFX regarding B5/Crusade? I've noticed that, aside
from rare lapses into good taste, they seem to adopt a hostile, or at
best, cool tone towards you/the show. Was there any specific event
that triggered this? It was quite noticeable and rather puzzling.
-30- Bob Ingria As always, at a slight angle to the universe
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Date: 18 Sep 1999 18:33:14 -0700
From: J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
To: Bob Ingria <70373.1164 at compuserve.com>
Subject: Sci Fi Channel Poll
Message-ID: <forum.babylon5.71422 at compuserve.com>
References: <forum.babylon5.71409 at compuserve.com>
"What is it with SFX regarding B5/Crusade? I've noticed that, aside
from rare lapses into good taste, they seem to adopt a hostile, or at
best, cool tone towards you/the show. Was there any specific event
that triggered this? It was quite noticeable and rather puzzling."
As noted in my prior message, it's specifically because we
phantom zoned them because many of their articles were, quite simply,
unfair and sometimes cheap shots masquerading as objectivity. I don't
mind if somebody does or doesn't like a show or an episode, I got no
beef with that...but some of what was being done by them was wrong, I
felt...and finally, they were cut off from all PR material for Crusade.
At which point they went balls out to attack the show, or myself, at
any given opportunity; it's got nothing to do with journalism and
everything to do with being pissed-off jumped-up fanboys.
By contrast, Dreamwatch has often had both good and bad things
to say about the show, but always one gets a sense that they're being
fair about it, and that their criticisms are well considered and as a
result are often hard to argue with. As opposed to SFX, which takes
cheap ad hominum shots at anyone who even writes in to dare and say
they like B5 or Crusade. You can tell that it's personal with
them...and the moment it becomes personal, you can kiss goodbye even
the pretension to journalistic integrity.
When the situation came out about some B5 cast members not being
paid for their appearances at VorCon, Dreamwatch went out and
independently verified the situation. SFX, because it's close with
some of the people involved with VorCon, did not. This is typical of
their bias. And that bias and that open negativity is, I think, why
their circulation is reportedly shrinking while the circulation of some
of the other magazines, notably Dreamwatch, is increasing, especially
here in the States.
jms
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End of JMS CIS Digest 18-Sep-99 18:33 through 18-Sep-99 18:33
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