[B5JMS] "stars and garters"

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From: flipglen at stn.net (flipglen)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:17:39 GMT
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On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 21:29:48 -0400, "Joseph DeMartino"
<jdemarti at bellsouth.net> wrote:

>"Oh my stars and garters" may have been *used* in Uncle Scrooge, but I'm
>pretty sure it long predates it.  I believe the expression dates from
>the golden age of burlesque in this country (think about it.)
You're probably correct!


>People need to be careful about assuming that the first place they
>encountered an expression is the first place that it *occurred*, 
Not my iontention, but I'll leave it to JMS to say where he first
heard the phrase if he choses to comment.

or that
>Writer B definitely "borrowed" something from Writer A just because they
>both used it.  Even if Banks *had* originated the phrase, its been used
>in so many other places since that it has simply entered the language,
Really? I would love to know some other recent uses.


>no more represents a deliberate "borrowing" than using a phrase like "No
>Sh*t, Sherlock" - which doubtless was invented by some individual at
>some definite time, but has since entered the "public domain"
I certainly wasn't using the word borrowing in any way as a negative.
The public domain issue is moot.

Phil


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From: jmsatb5 at aol.com (Jms at B5)
Date: 19 Jul 2002 02:33:11 GMT
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I don't recall exactly where I heard it first, might've been in an old (30s)
movie...but it definitely wasn't in the Carl Barks strip.

 jms

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