[B5JMS] Jerry Doyle hopeful of B5 revival

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Sat Aug 30 04:25:53 EDT 2003

From: Wendy of NJ <voxwoman at hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 21:39:20 +0000 (UTC)
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Kathryn Huxtable wrote:
> jrobertson at nitrosys.com (Jon Robertson) writes:
>>That story is over.  It was great.  I loved it.  I plan on owning
>>all five seasons in one form or another.
> As much as it pains me, I have to agree. The story is over.
> There are minor stories that can be told, e.g. the telepath war, which
> could have guest appearances by the old cast with maybe one or two of
> them as regulars, but it probably won't happen for a long time.
> Consider Trek. TNG didn't have any cast overlap between TOS, did it?
> (I've actually never watched TNG.)

No, they set TNG 80 years in the future from TOS for just that reason. 
Even so, McCoy had a cameo in the pilot, and Spock (and Sarek)  had 
guest shots in later seasons. The other series' (DS9 mostly) shared 
characters from TNG. I think that was to boost ratings or something, and 
the TNG people had cameos on Vger once in a while, too.

> And no matter what, JMS doesn't seem interested in "eating cold
> oatmeal" as Poi Dog Pondering put it so well. He'll likely only do a
> completely different type of story.
> -K

From: jmsatb5 at aol.com (Jms at B5)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 23:44:57 +0000 (UTC)
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A couple of points on this.

There have been no discussions concerning a return of the Babylon 5 series
between myself and WB or any other studio or network.  Nor do I think anything
is likely in that area.

Jerry took umbrage when, a few years ago, I commented on his statements that he
would be able to put togeether a new B5 series deal.  From the interview, he
still seems to be in high dudgeon over this.  But the fact remains: I was
correct in my statement, he didn't have the pieces in place to make it happen. 
If he'd had the wherewithal to make it happen, it would've; it didn't, so he
didn't.  My statement was correct.  

Once again, the pieces simply aren't there.  He has lined up a radio guy who
feels the show should return.  Which is great, it's a terrific compliment.  But
that is not in any way, manner, shape or form anywhere near anything of a
serious nature in terms of getting a show on the air.  

I've always been happy to listen to anyone -- Jerry, his pals, anybody -- who
would come to me with a serious proposal and have the moxie, the money, and the
resources to make it happen.  It hasn't.  That's the simple fact of it.

Jerry's a terrific operator, he always has an angle going, he's always working
it...but that ain't the same thing as always having the real deal in hand.  If
WB were involved in this -- and they'd have to be -- both Doug and I would be
in the loop by contract.  But that is not the case.  I spoke with Doug five
minutes ago as I type this, and he confirmed: there is nothing happening on
this front other than Jerry talkling with the radio guy.

As for his notion that the characters in Crusade were just B5 characters with
the names changed...as the person who created those characters, nothing could
be further from the truth.  Nor was Bruce ever set to be the star of Crusade.  

There's a natural tendency for people to hear or think what they expect, what
they want to hear.  I told all the B5 cast members as a group that there would
certainly be opportunities for guest appearances throughout Crusade, but at no
point did I promise Bruce that he would be the lead of the series, or that we'd
simply transplant the characters.  It wouldn't be a new series if we did that.

Finally, in his interview, both Jerry and Bruce seem to blame me for B5 not
being in its 10th year right now.  Which is true and not true.   B5 was always
meant to be a 5 year story; every actor knew that going in.  It wasn't like
this was a surprise at the last minute.  We all knew the deal.

WB had told us to shut down after year 4 because even though the show was doing
well, our network, PTEN, was going out of business.  At the last minute, TNT
took on the task of financing a fifth year *in order to get the end of the
five-year story*.  They never talked about anything beyond that, nor did anyone
else.  So anything else is a moot point.  I don't think that TNT would ever
have committed to anything more than one season in any event.  They wanted the
end of the story to make the package complete.  If that had been a six-year
arc, they would not have picked it up because two years would've been too

So them's is the facts.  

Yes, there's one or two things percolating n the B5 universe that may be of
interest, but neither of them are series deals.  

I hate to throw water on this, but I don't want fans to get all excited about
something that's simply not happening anywhere except in Jerry's interview.

He probably won't like that I said this any more than he did the last time, but
then as now, I have to put out the facts and let the passage of time validate


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