[B5JMS] And So It Begins...

[b5jms at cs.columbia.edu]

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From: velovich at aol.com (V-Man)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 19:03:13 +0000 (UTC)
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>Well, the US has imprisonment without trial and without 
>access to legal representation.

   Generally, NO, this is not the case.  The US has this ONLY in cases of
Immigration law.

>Source: the respected 
>*right* wing newspaper, The Daily Telegraph. [1]

  And they would never lie or exaggerate or print something that flew in the
face of fact...


Play more with Claymore!  V-Man
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From: jmsatb5 at aol.com (Jms at B5)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 07:25:07 +0000 (UTC)
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>>Well, the US has imprisonment without trial and without 
>>access to legal representation.
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>   Generally, NO, this is not the case.  The US has this ONLY in cases of
>Immigration law.

Flat-out not true.  US citizen Jose Padilla (a lowlife but a citizen
nonetheless) has had to fight for access to legal counsel, and according to
reports there are at least two or three other US citizens being held in similar
fashion.

 jms

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