[B5JMS] And So It Begins...

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From: Jonathan Biggar <jon at floorboard.com>
Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 17:28:50 GMT
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Jms at B5 wrote:
>> Yup, that's liberal thinking.  Demand that access to everything be
>> a right, just so they can feel good about their compassion for
>> others, funded by threat of force, regardless of whether it would
>> break the bank.
> 
> So here's the question.
> 
> How come, when Bush decides to up the defense budget another hundred
> billion to $350 billion, and spend another $150-200 billion on the
> war in Iraq, nobody on the right stops to say, "Hey, where's this
> money gonna come from?"  That never seems to be an issue, dropping
> bombs, that never seems to be an issue, but feeding, clothing, and
> helping the least of its citizens, that somehow has to be justified.
> 
> Astonishing.

Hardly.  The Constitution gives the government the right and duty for
national defense.

It does *not* give the government the right to take away funds from one
citizen to benefit another.

-- 
Jon Biggar
Floorboard Software
jon at floorboard.com
jon at biggar.org


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From: jmsatb5 at aol.com (Jms at B5)
Date: 27 May 2003 23:55:38 GMT
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>Hardly.  The Constitution gives the government the right and duty for
>national defense.
>
>It does *not* give the government the right to take away funds from one
>citizen to benefit another.

So defense of the nation does not benefit the citizens?

So paying billions of dollars to contractors doesn't benefit one group of
citizens over another?  Is the US Government aware that their contractors are
not citizens?  Because if they are, then they are benefitting from this.  Or is
it only okay for one citizen to benefit over another if it's military?

Further, the provisions are not a carte blanche.  Do you mean to say that we
have the right to fund national defense limitlessly?  To the point of, say,
hampering states, bankrupting resources, lowering the value of the dollar?  Is
there not, by your lights, to be *any* kind of cap on this?  They can spend
whatever they want?

Funds I pay in taxes are being paid to a Halliburton subsidiary to go in and
rebuild and control the Iraqi oil industry, which will benefit the Halliburton
board of directors to the tune of billions of dollars.

Where, may I ask, do I go to get my money back on that one?

 jms

(jmsatb5 at aol.com)
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