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From: "Kevin A. Munoz" <kevin at tesarta.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 01:56:00 +0000 (UTC)
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In article <Xns95CD53287586Erichardrapiernetscap at 130.133.1.4>, Richard
<RichardRapier at netscape.net> wrote:

> Dan Brandow <dbrandow at concentric.net> wrote in news:41D15007.7050508
> @concentric.net:
> 
> >> connolse at bc.edu wrote:
> >>>I'm genuinely sorry for you family on this.  But when you say 'the
> >>>Church' did this to you, I belive you're mistaken.  The excesses of the
> >>>Crusades, the Inquisition etc. etc. are NOT things based on true Church
> >>>teaching. 
> > 
> > 
> > I am not amused by someone who upholds the "infallibility" of his pope, 
> > and yet decries responsibility for direct consequences of that pope's 
> > church.
> > 
> 
> Well, technically, the pope is not infallible, other than when making 
> whatever the official decrees are, at other times, he is merely human.  As 
> I vaguely recall, in matters of faith, doctrine, and morals he is supposed 
> to be infallible, which would cover what is being discussed here however.

You are correct... the Pope is infallible only in his teaching office,
when speaking ex cathedra on faith, doctrine and morals.

Kevin A. Munoz



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From: jmsatb5 at aol.com (Jms at B5)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 03:32:03 +0000 (UTC)
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>You are correct... the Pope is infallible only in his teaching office,
>when speaking ex cathedra on faith, doctrine and morals.

By faith and doctrine, the Sun goes around the Earth.  Hence the *reason* they
went after Galileo.  So he was wrong.  Hence, not infallible when speaking ex
cathedra.


 jms

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