JMS SPEAKS: CIS postings 17-Nov-95 22:58:08 through 24-Nov-95 03:19:59
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From: jhardin at wolfenet.com (John Hardin)
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Digest of messages from J. Michael Straczynski 71016,1644
17-Nov-95 22:58:08 through 24-Nov-95 03:19:59
===== Message #399986 at 17-Nov-95 22:58:08 =====
To: Ruth Ballam 100412,3457 (X)
Subject: #<Theo>
Re: brewing ale...is that true?
jms
===== Message #399987 at 17-Nov-95 22:58:10 =====
To: Gerald Himmelein 100417,3703 (X)
Subject: #Four Cents: Convictions
There can be no question that the conditions prevalent in Germany after
WW I created the climate in which a Hitler could come into power. There was
great resentment and anger festering over the onerous conditions placed upon
the German government, the enconomy was in ruins, people were looking for
someone to blame, and that creates the perfect condition for scapegoats, and
someone who can take advantage of that.
Hitler, however, was able to perceive that, galvanize it, shape it and
form it. It was Hitler who organized the brownshirts and created the
krystalnachts, who orchestrated his rise within the government until he was
finally able to seize the reins of government, and he who was the primary
architect of the atrocities of that period.
Of course he didn't do it by himself; there were those who willingly,
even happily collaborated; those who opposed and said nothing; those who were
of no opinion one way or another; and those who resisted. If you're going to
blame the first group, maybe the first two or three, you still have to
recognize the fourth.
People can be driven by the madness of the crowd, or intimidated by the
government of the gun into silence. No one is looking to totally exonerate
the citizenry; though one can make a compelling argument that anyone who spoke
out was swiftly arrested, deported, or shot...which tends to discourage the
free exchange of criticism. Would WW 2 have taken place without Hitler?
Possibly; the conditions were right. Would it have taken the same shape?
Probably not; almost certainly not. Thus the blame for *this* war, the way it
happened *this* time, must be laid at his feet.
jms
===== Message #399988 at 17-Nov-95 22:58:13 =====
To: Jimmy R. Kapesis 103156,1634 (X)
Subject: Dr. Franklin's serum
I'd forget it for now.
jms
===== Message #399989 at 17-Nov-95 22:58:17 =====
To: Jimmy R. Kapesis 103156,1634 (X)
Subject: Bio-tech weapons
Could be.
jms
===== Message #399990 at 17-Nov-95 22:58:17 =====
To: Alan Katz 74260,3612 (X)
Subject: B5 Magazine
I go over the text, yes, but I've advised those who do it to avoid
turning it into a puff-piece.
jms
===== Message #399992 at 17-Nov-95 22:58:23 =====
To: Jimmy R. Kapesis 103156,1634 (X)
Subject: #399955-Book of G'Quon
The leaf shown is the G'Quon-eth, the plant featured in "By Any Means
Necessary."
jms
===== Message #400289 at 18-Nov-95 14:55:56 =====
To: Jason Wong 73302,776 (X)
Subject: #400146-#New Open!
It's my understanding that there'll be a B5 cover in Cinefantastique in
the next few months.
jms
===== Message #400290 at 18-Nov-95 14:55:57 =====
To: Jimmy R. Kapesis 103156,1634 (X)
Subject: #400152-G'Quoneth Plant
Nope.
jms
===== Message #400291 at 18-Nov-95 14:56:00 =====
To: Marlyn Bumpus 75117,3014 (X)
Subject: #400251-JMS: Questions
Vickery is a british actor, yes.
jms
===== Message #400527 at 18-Nov-95 21:54:23 =====
To: John M. Kahane 102664,773 (X)
Subject: #400299-#DL Query
No, she didn't know who it was, but *whoever* the person was, the longer
that person stayed where he/she was, the greater the risk. They didn't know
it all along remember; several people died on Mars getting that information
out...as soon as they had it, and knew there was a traitor aboard, they had to
move on it.
jms
===== Message #400528 at 18-Nov-95 21:54:26 =====
To: John M. Kahane 102664,773 (X)
Subject: #400309-#Kosh Me This
It's Screen Actors Guild rules; you can't have a character like this,
who isn't actually an actor, in the opening credits.
jms
===== Message #400531 at 18-Nov-95 22:04:09 =====
To: Jimmy R. Kapesis 103156,1634 (X)
Subject: #400358-#B5 rerun schedule
That's been the traditional rerun schedule with us; during the christmas
weeks, the logic goes, most folks are out, not watching TV.
jms
===== Message #400532 at 18-Nov-95 22:04:10 =====
To: Mike Aragona 73641,1353 (X)
Subject: #400397-Quick Question
Yeah, it's fair to say that that's one of our themes.
jms
===== Message #400533 at 18-Nov-95 22:04:12 =====
To: David Schirmer 76774,3310 (X)
Subject: #400407-#Thanks for a Great show
Thank you. I don't think it's a case of hanging out with "the
commoners" to use your term; I've been here since 1984 or so, and I enjoy the
discussions, and I'll be darned if I'll change that just because my name
appears on a TV screen somewhere. I'm basically just another fan of the
genre....
jms
===== Message #401026 at 19-Nov-95 20:57:23 =====
To: Jimmy R. Kapesis 103156,1634 (X)
Subject: #400665-B5 comic
Don't know the exact pub date yet; the issues should be regular sized.
jms
===== Message #401027 at 19-Nov-95 20:57:24 =====
To: Cynthia and Richard 71561,3255 (X)
Subject: #400668-B5 Costumers win again
Thanks, and congrats. We've been in contact with the Air and Space
people, and when they're ready to do a B5 exhibit, we're there; but we'd
rather not include B5 props in an ST exhibition.
jms
===== Message #401028 at 19-Nov-95 20:57:27 =====
To: Mark Pruett 74133,3406 (X)
Subject: #400690-<The Mad Bomber>
That's great to hear, thanks.
jms
===== Message #401029 at 19-Nov-95 20:57:30 =====
To: Mark Pruett 74133,3406 (X)
Subject: #400691-Four Cents: Convictions
No, insofar as I know, it's an original, composed by Chris Franke.
jms
===== Message #401155 at 20-Nov-95 01:03:45 =====
To: Morris L. Gavant, M.D. 74027,264 (X)
Subject: #401002-#<Franklin's IV fluids>
My sense is that if you're a german ambassador, and you're attacked and
checked into Cedar Sinai Hospital, the chief of staff there takes care of you,
rather than bringing in an outsider/german doctor. Franklin's well suited to
his task.
We could probably label the blood bags a little better.
jms
===== Message #401156 at 20-Nov-95 01:03:46 =====
To: peter stathis 102477,3046 (X)
Subject: #400660-#B5:The End???!!!
"...that would mean that it would be near the bottom of the ratings of
syndicated shows."
People who don't know what they're talking about should avoid making
comments like that. The overall breakdown of syndicated shows runs about 10
pages of very fine type; usually around 215 shows or more, ranked in order of
average national ratings. Babylon 5 is always on the first page of that
breakdown; usually the #4 or #5 dramatic series for that week, sometimes a bit
higher, never less than #6. We consistently stay in the top ten of dramatic
series. (You don't include game shows or talk shows in the mix; that's
comparing apples and oranges.)
If you *include* all those other shows, in one typical week, we came out
as #38 overall, out of 215. That is extremely respectable. Most network
shows that come in around the top 50 tend to stay around for a good long time.
Look, Peter, do me a favor, and get off the ratings, okay? It's clear
you don't understand them, and the bottom line is simply this: if our ratings
weren't sufficiently high, we wouldn't be here. It's that simple. We're here,
so we're getting the numbers. Warners is happy, and we're happy.
jms
===== Message #401157 at 20-Nov-95 01:03:49 =====
To: Sharon Foster 76360,301 (X)
Subject: #400700-#B5:The End???!!!
Local advertisments are bought by the local station, with matching funds
from WB. If the show isn't being advertised in your local area, the problem
is your local station.
jms
===== Message #401158 at 20-Nov-95 01:07:11 =====
To: Jimmy R. Kapesis 103156,1634 (X)
Subject: #401038-#Demon w\ Glass Hand
It's something we're still planning to do, in the fullness of time.
jms
===== Message #401616 at 20-Nov-95 16:53:51 =====
To: Eric D. Fether 74067,465 (X)
Subject: #401471-2nd Babylon 5 CD?
The first CD came out and has done quite well; it's in most record
stores (that can keep it in stock), so it can be ordered through your local
Tower or Wherehouse, or you can order direct from Sonic Images via their web
page, or the address given in the B5 library (#5 or #6).
jms
===== Message #401617 at 20-Nov-95 16:53:52 =====
To: Sharon Foster 76360,301 (X)
Subject: #401537-B5:The End???!!!
I probably should, but I'm a lousy organizer/filer; I know they're all
in one place, but not indexed or anything. Probably no direct need to get a
copy; accept the appreciation nonetheless.
jms
===== Message #401618 at 20-Nov-95 16:53:54 =====
To: David Nedrow 70004,1273 (X)
Subject: #401558-New TNT Info?
No, nothing new....
jms
===== Message #401818 at 20-Nov-95 21:26:28 =====
To: John M. Kahane 102664,773 (X)
Subject: #401652-#B5 rerun schedule
Yeah, I think those are the episodes covered in reruns, though at one
point they're going to drop in "Hunter, Prey" one more time to set up the
events to come in the next batch of new eps.
jms
===== Message #401819 at 20-Nov-95 21:26:29 =====
To: Michael Zitaglio 102545,641 (X)
Subject: #401744-#Italian Garibaldi
Thanks....
jms
===== Message #401820 at 20-Nov-95 21:26:30 =====
To: Jimmy R. Kapesis 103156,1634 (X)
Subject: #401786-B5 fan club
We've been working with WB on getting the paperwork finished, and it's
nearly there, so the club should be on line in the next week or two. I'm
directly involved in running/owning it, with my associate Doug Netter. It's
not set up to be a big money machine, just doing a few things for the fans,
and that sort of thing.
jms
===== Message #401821 at 20-Nov-95 21:26:33 =====
To: Jimmy R. Kapesis 103156,1634 (X)
Subject: #401790-<ADITS: Ask Kosh?>
Because Delenn doesn't know that information offhand, any more than you
or I would have casual access to detailed scientific information from our own
world just off the top of our heads; she'd still have to go to her own
homeworld for the info, as our characters did. And it's not that we didn't
have it, it was just collating it all. And given how Kosh answers questions,
would you really want to use his responses in this thing?
jms
===== Message #401830 at 20-Nov-95 21:38:28 =====
To: Bob Fischer 73727,1774 (X)
Subject: #401708-#<ADITS Episode>
My sense is that Delenn is not a godlike font of information; I don't
think anyone, alien or human, at the station would just happen to know all the
information required. How much would Delenn know about molecular biology, for
instance? (And if you asked Kosh a question about the subject, he'd probably
come back with "The heart does not sing with its parts." Not exactly useful.)
Anyone there would have to go back to their own world for experts in the
various fields...so you're back where you started. Earth *has* the info, it's
just getting it, and getting it fast. If you add the overlay of going through
another government, you're going to run out of time that much faster.
Logically, a probe like this would be sent off looking for information on
the very cusp of technology that could pose a threat. That's why it *didn't*
go off when the probe presumed them to be a less developed civilization; it
was looking for civilizations that *are* sufficiently advanced to pose a
possible threat; Sheridan says exactly that as he walks across C&C.
Interesting aside on this, btw, in the "where do you get your ideas?"
department. The US House Science Sub-Committee held a series of hearings into
the question of extraterrestrial contact during the 1970s, to determine what
we should do in the event of contact. The most likely scenario, the
scientists agreed, was a probe coming into our solar system. So what do we do
in response to a message asking if anybody's home?
Believe it or not, it was the consensus of the Subcommittee that we
should not respond...in case it was a berserker, just as shown in the episode.
That is our government's official policy on the subject.
jms
===== Message #401916 at 21-Nov-95 00:20:33 =====
To: Antonio Fuentes 103037,2550 (X)
Subject: #401886-#Question for JMS
That's a lot of questions, but still....
I'll go along with little increases in merchandising along the way, but
nothing major until after we're done. Then, when it can't contaminate the
show, maybe more.
Talia and Ivanova were linked/did have a relationship; and there was a
camera edit that didn't quite match, two different issues.
A book after the fact...will have to wait until I'm done for a
decision. We hope the show will in time be out on tape/disk, and all of the
major questions raised during the show should/must be answered during the
show, you can't leave stuff hanging.
jms
===== Message #402169 at 21-Nov-95 11:52:16 =====
To: Paul Sulkowski 75604,2156 (X)
Subject: #401933-Whitestar ?s (spoiler)
Had a Minbari been running that sensor, he would've nailed it instantly;
but Ivanova had never actually encountered that ship before, and was running
off the initial scan reports. (Also it was just phasing in at that point.)
The White Star uses local drive engines based on magnetic and
gravitational principles; in a sense, it doesn't so much push itself toward
other worlds as *pull* itself or *repel* itself. One side effect of creating
a powerful gravitational system is the ability to create artificial gravity.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
jms
===== Message #402170 at 21-Nov-95 11:52:17 =====
To: Eric D. Fether 74067,465 (X)
Subject: #402109-Question for JMS
That's when the story ends. You tell your tale and get off the stage.
jms
===== Message #402171 at 21-Nov-95 11:52:18 =====
To: Bert Johnson 102476,201 (X)
Subject: #402113-<Alien Probe>
Probably not.
jms
===== Message #402587 at 21-Nov-95 21:32:32 =====
To: Lori Eppright 75113,474 (X)
Subject: #401882-#B5 Entertainment Utility
Yep, that's the screensaver I was talking about; it's really nifty.
jms
===== Message #402594 at 21-Nov-95 21:42:33 =====
To: Jimmy R. Kapesis 103156,1634 (X)
Subject: #402212-#Kosh's lessons
Sheridan has fallen away from the lessons a bit; Kosh is going to have
to have a word with him about that.
jms
===== Message #402595 at 21-Nov-95 21:42:35 =====
To: John McAuley 100260,412 (X)
Subject: #402330-#How much did Kosh know?
Good question.
Pity you'll have to wait for the answer....
jms
===== Message #402596 at 21-Nov-95 21:42:38 =====
To: Tom Knudsen 72347,1626 (X)
Subject: #<Gethsemane>
Two things on the upcoming episode ("Gethsemane")....
1) This is episode #5 in shooting order; I'd originally planned to end
the first batch of new episodes with #4, "Voices of Authority," which is a
major -- and I mean major -- wham episode. But the EFX requirements were
pretty hideous (though not as bad as "Messages"), so I moved "Gethsemane" into
that slot, which is a very strong episode, though not an arc'er.
2) On the story question...yes, this was the story that someone else
(don't want to use names, no sense in blaming anyone) had accidentally
suggested while I was working on it early in season two. So I had to scuttle
the script for nearly a year. Finally, very chagrined over what happened, the
individual gave me a notarized form explaining the situation. At that point, I
was able to reactivate the story. So no, it's not any kind of "it's okay to
do this" notion about story ideas; as it is, the story was tied up for about a
year, and might never have seen the light of day had not the other person made
great efforts to set the situation straight.
jms
===== Message #402598 at 21-Nov-95 21:42:45 =====
To: Michael Zitaglio 102545,641 (X)
Subject: #402418-Vichy Narn?
It's any occupied government, really....
jms
===== Message #402711 at 22-Nov-95 00:29:34 =====
To: Michael Grabois 74737,2600 (X)
Subject: #402677-<ADITS Episode>
I just went through my stuff trying to find it...there was a formal
report published by the Government Printing Agency in around 1978 or so. I
think it was entitled something like "Prospects for Contact by Extra-
Terrestrial Intelligence," and went into the whole CETI issue at great length.
(Back then, it was CETI, for Contact With Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence,
changed shortly after the House hearing on the subject to SETI, Search For
Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence.) Any GPA office should have the report on
file.
jms
===== Message #403072 at 22-Nov-95 13:28:21 =====
To: peter stathis 102477,3046
Subject: #402823-#B5: Dear Joe
Of course it's your right to say it. You can say any foolish thing you
choose. My point -- underlined by your own comments -- is that you have
absolutely no understanding of how the ratings work, where they come from, how
they are compiled, what they mean, or where we stand in those rankings.
If you wish to continue putting out misinformation, botched figures,
unnecessary panic, and foolish notions that have nothing whatsoever to do with
reality, well, that's your right. And I'm going to call you on it and if your
comments are sufficiently stupid or misinformed, get a little testy, because
that's *my* right. I came back and posted the exact numbers that are made
available. It's not playing the ratings game except in the sense that the
ratings are always a game...a game whose rules you don't know or understand.
For the week of 10/23 to 10/29, we were ranked #38 overall, out of a
grand total of 220 syndicated television series, including game shows, talk
shows, dramas, comedies, and everything else, and the 6th rated dramatic
series for that week. And our demographics scores put us in around 2nd/3rd
position. We did better than Highlander, Pointman, Kung Fu, the syndicated
Tales from the Crypt, and other dramatic series. Outside dramatic series, we
did better than the Jerry Springer Show, America's Most Wanted, Sightings,
Martha Stewart Living, Rush Limbaugh, Siskel & Ebert, Richard Bey, and
Donahue...all of which are considered successful series.
Those are the cold, hard facts, the hard numbers as delivered the the
A.C. Neilsen and Arbitron Companies.
If I were currently worried about the show, if I thought the numbers were
soft, I'd be the first person sounding the clarion call and asking people to
write letters urging the show's continuance. I'm not doing that, because
Warner Bros. is happy, PTEN is happy, and we're happy. No one -- *no one* --
is more concerned about this show's survival than I am, and if I'm relatively
content with the situation, then we're in pretty good shape.
You cite that some stations are moving the show into weird hours. That
is correct. First, it's only a very few stations out of nearly 200 stations;
those are, for the most part, Fox stations that have contractual commitments
to run Fox shows in prime-time, which is 8-10 p.m. Mon-Sun (they generally run
news 10-11). All that's left in those stations -- and many markets only
*have* one or two independent stations -- is the non-prime time schedule.
That means after 11 or before 7.
You cite the Indianapolis station that dropped the show. Yes, because
WB, feeling strongly about the show, pressured it for a better time slot, same
as in Grand Rapids MI. They were locked in, couldn't give us anything better,
so the show left...and has not been REPLACED in the Indianapolis market on
WNDY. So once again your facts are incorrect by omission and
inaccuracy...Indianapolis DOES have B5 back now, on better station in many
ways, and we're in negotiations to bring it back to the two or three other
markets where the same thing has happened.
In all the major markets, our ratings are *significantly* up. In
Charlotte we're up 186% over this same time last year; Cincinnati up 233%;
Chicago up 133%; San Francisco up 135%...in Portland we blow the doors off
altogether.
In short, Peter, you are absolutely, incontravertibly, dead-ass wrong.
"I am only doing a favor to those out there who like the show." No
you're not. You're trying to whip up hysteria, get people upset, cause a
crisis that exists nowhere but in your own mind, because that's what you enjoy
doing.
And you clearly think that while you can come on here and say any thing
you want, if I come back and say you're wrong, somehow this is wrong, this is
only wanting to hear from groupies...as opposed to the simple fact that you're
*wrong*. You want to have one set of rules for yourself (anything goes), and
one thing for me (shut up, bend over and take it without any backtalk). I
checked my CIS agreement; that proviso isn't there.
Anybody who comes on here and wants to express an opinion, negative or
positive, about the show is free to do so. Anyone who comes on and offers
what he thinks are facts, and those facts are wrong, is going to be corrected.
There is this little club of people who think that they should be able to
say anything they want, as addle-headed or inaccurate as may be, and that if
they're called on it, that's wrong, and that's interfering in their right of
expression. Well, pal, I have a right to expression too, and guess what? The
facts are on my side of the argument, not yours.
And they always come back with the same thing, "if it bothers you to hear
it, well, that's just the way things are," and "I am not some groupie or some
mindless fanatic," thereby denigrating everybody else, as if they are blind
followers, and only you see the truth, which is I'm sure exactly what you
would like to believe, and "you might not like to hear it, but I got a right
to say it."
Absolutely. You've got a right to be as asinine and incorrect and stupid
and ill-informed and prejudicial and hysterical and wrong-headed as you wish.
And I've got the right to correct you.
Deal with it.
jms
===== Message #403073 at 22-Nov-95 13:28:25 =====
To: Paul M. Zukowski 102522,131 (X)
Subject: #402871-#Thanks for a Great show
Yep, they had computers back then; I used to log on on an old Kaypro, no
hard drive, 64k memory and 128k floppies. Ah, those were the days....
jms
===== Message #403074 at 22-Nov-95 13:28:27 =====
To: Bob Danielson 73647,2247 (X)
Subject: #403002-B5:The End???!!!
No, no reconciliation there. They want the numbers to improved in season
three over season two. They are doing this. (Though we're gonna get killed
tonight by the second half of the Beatles series.)
jms
===== Message #403076 at 22-Nov-95 13:28:30 =====
To: The Jawa / Jawa #2 76371,3057
Subject: #403020-#$0.04: <A Day in Strife>
Thanks...and Vir will return to the station from time to time, just as
Londo said.
jms
===== Message #403077 at 22-Nov-95 13:28:33 =====
To: Philip Hornsey 74053,2101 (X)
Subject: #403024-Kosh's lessons
Oh, yes, I'd say so....
jms
===== Message #403078 at 22-Nov-95 13:28:34 =====
To: Alan Katz 74260,3612
Subject: #403034-#DL Query
There was no *proof* that it was her, just a good chance. And the Corps
wouldn't allow her to be just shipped off. Pluse, she's still a citizen with
all the rights attendent upon that; we can't just ship somebody off to Russia
or Singapore if we don't like them. Real life is a lot more complicated, and
this show is patterned after reality as much as possible.
jms
===== Message #403098 at 22-Nov-95 14:13:30 =====
To: MARK SMITH 102161,2223 (X)
Subject: #403043-#Daily News Dis
One person said, "Critics are paid to be unfair." This piece shows it.
Too much emphasis on being cute and biting, rather than discussing the merits
of the show.
It's enlightening to see the dichotomy on the show on either side of the
Atlantic...here the critics tend to dismiss the show, or get cutsie, or deride
it...but in the UK, publications from Home Entertainment to Time Out to even
the prestigious Radio Times have lauded the show, calling it some of the best
SF of the last decade.
jms
===== Message #403418 at 22-Nov-95 22:33:05 =====
To: Jimmy R. Kapesis 103156,1634 (X)
Subject: #403193-Fleer
The Fleer situation has been mutually pleasing. I think Fleer is going
to close down or otherwise change, so the cards may end up in the hands of
another company at some point.
jms
===== Message #403419 at 22-Nov-95 22:33:06 =====
To: John M. Kahane 102664,773
Subject: #403277-B5 rerun schedule
Not too much substantial in this batch...a few things, but to point them
out would defeat the purpose.
jms
===== Message #403421 at 22-Nov-95 22:33:13 =====
To: Walter F. Hern 74201,2063 (X)
Subject: #403349-B5: Dear Joe
To have a Tie fighter come through B5 space would a) break the reality
of the show, b) make us a pastiche or comedy, people would be too busy
noticing and laughing at that to pay attention, and b) would be a case of
copyright infringement, which would get us in a heap of legal trouble.
Re: the ratings...you're quite correct. Also, what most folks forget
was that TOS was considered a ratings flop on every level, and would've been
canceled after its second year were it not for a huge campaign by fans.
jms
===== Message #403467 at 23-Nov-95 01:27:18 =====
To: Kenneth Porter 76161,3013
Subject: #403451-Explosive Decompression
We've shown one body after spacing, and discussed another; in each case,
we hewed close to the facts. Dr. Franklin pointed out that, rather than eyes
exploding or anything of that nature, they freeze, for instance. In any
event...yes, point taken, and we won't do that, never intended to.
jms
===== Message #403468 at 23-Nov-95 01:27:19 =====
To: All
Subject: B5 at LosCon
Just a reminder...I'll be giving a Babylon 5 special presentation at
LosCon this Sunday at the Burbank Airport Hilton from 1-3 p.m. As a caveat,
the seats are usually gone very fast, almost always before the presentation
begins, so you may want to come a little bit early, otherwise there might not
be any available seats. The last several appearances have all been SRO.
jms
===== Message #403884 at 23-Nov-95 21:07:10 =====
To: Lolita . Maddalena 102701,3447
Subject: #403496-$0.04: <A Day in Strife>
Yeah...right back where we started....
jms
===== Message #403885 at 23-Nov-95 21:07:13 =====
To: Trent K. Johnson 71020,1052
Subject: #403520-New Open!
"Why are starfuries firing on starfuries?"
Noticed that, eh?
Wait and see.
jms
===== Message #403993 at 24-Nov-95 03:19:59 =====
To: Philip Hornsey 74053,2101
Subject: #403915-DL Query
The EA was fairly easy going, but remember that people are used to a
heavy governmental hand during the Earth/Minbari War. It's in a way similar
to the situation we had post WW2; the only way we could make it past that war
and survive was through strict discipline, following orders, going along with
rationing, conserving, everything. And it was that positive attitude that
those who came later would exploit in the McCarthy/Red Scare 1950s, and hit us
sideways in the 60s.
jms
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