JMS CIS Digest: 06-Jan-96 17:47:35 through 08-Jan-96 11:41:54 (8 msgs)
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From: jhardin at wolfenet.com (John Hardin)
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J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
06-Jan-96 17:47:35 through 08-Jan-96 11:41:54 (8 messages)
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Subjects in digest:
<Ship of Tears> Stuff
Tonight's repeat episode
KIDIST REMARK IN "TKO"
A question about Morden
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Date: 06-Jan-96 17:47:35
From: John M. Kahane <102664.773 at compuserve.com>
To: J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
Subject: <Ship of Tears> Stuff
Message-ID: <forum.sfmediaone.426902 at compuserve.com>
Hullo, Joe,
I trust that you had a terrific New Year, and that things
are looking up and all. :)
< Walter is also in "Ship of Tears.">
I've heard a little bit about this from the Lurker's Guide.
Isn't this the one that has Shadow ship and stuff in it? I don't
know all that much about it, but is there more that you can say
about this episode and the Bester role?
jmk
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Date: 07-Jan-96 17:21:44
From: J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
To: John M. Kahane <102664.773 at compuserve.com>
Subject: <Ship of Tears> Stuff
Message-ID: <forum.sfmediaone.427668 at compuserve.com>
References: <forum.sfmediaone.426902 at compuserve.com>
Could, yeah, but I'd rather let that episode reveal
itself...there's not much I can say about it that wouldn't spoil it for
people.
jms
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Date: 06-Jan-96 20:07:20
From: Rebecca Eschliman <76072.2345 at compuserve.com>
To: J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
Subject: Tonight's repeat episode
Message-ID: <forum.sfmediaone.426993 at compuserve.com>
References: <forum.sfmediaone.423904 at compuserve.com>
>... For me, one of the important things about this show is to
make people *think* about what they believe...<
To a certain extent, isn't that something you accomplish just by
having the various non-Earth civilizations? Whether Centauri,
Narn, Minbari, Drazi, Vorlon, If one stops to think about the fact
that these civilizations have not developed against a background
of human interactions it is a lot more difficult to assign a
morality to their actions. Therefore one has to examine one's own
ethical beliefs is contrast to whatever reactions we have to your
other civilazations and one hopes, to think about why we believe
what we do.
Which is why I am always puzzled by the need people seem to have
to identify the Vorlons as either "good" or "evil" in fairly
absolute terms. We don't actually stop to consider whether or not
Kosh is "good" or "evil" in a purely Vorlon framework. Is Kosh an
orthodox Vorlon or an apostate Vorlon? BTW, that is not a
question I expect you to answer, just a rhetorical pondering.
Thanks for the fun.
- rje -
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Date: 07-Jan-96 17:21:47
From: J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
To: Rebecca Eschliman <76072.2345 at compuserve.com>
Subject: Tonight's repeat episode
Message-ID: <forum.sfmediaone.427669 at compuserve.com>
References: <forum.sfmediaone.426993 at compuserve.com>
I think it's not enough just to *have* non-Earth civilizations.
First you have to explore them, and set them up as real, individual
forces. Second, it becomes easy to say, "Well, I don't have to think
about this particular issue, it's just an alien thing. Isn't it
interesting that they should feel this way?" It's more effective in
some way to make the *really* challenging issues ones that directly
involve humans...it doesn't leave us as much wriggle room to avoid
considering the issue.
jms
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Date: 06-Jan-96 21:54:51
From: The Jawa / Jawa #2 <76371.3057 at compuserve.com>
To: Kidism Patrol & Allies
Subject: KIDIST REMARK IN "TKO"
Message-ID: <forum.sfmediaone.427071 at compuserve.com>
This is a catastrophe of immense proportions!!
IVANOVA MADE A KIDIST REMARK IN "TKO"!
The scene: father's memorial.
The remark: "...pouting in that way that only 13 can..."
I don't know what to do.
Ivanova seemed so *decent!*
Joe, Joe, how could you let that slip PAST??
What should we do?
The Jawa
Kidism Patrol
1:38 AM, Sunday, January 07, 1996
Major Blizzard!!!
IT WASN'T SAN FRANCISCO'S
FAULT! THE CHEESEHEADS
ARE REFRIGERATORS, I TELL YOU!
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Date: 07-Jan-96 17:32:24
From: J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
To: The Jawa / Jawa #2 <76371.3057 at compuserve.com>
Subject: KIDIST REMARK IN "TKO"
Message-ID: <forum.sfmediaone.427671 at compuserve.com>
References: <forum.sfmediaone.427071 at compuserve.com>
Point One: the script was written by Larry DiTillio, not me.
Point Two: the comment is essentially correct; ain't nobody can
pout like a 13 year old.
jms
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Date: 08-Jan-96 09:17:21
From: Michael Milutinovic <75500.3370 at compuserve.com>
To: J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
Subject: A question about Morden
Message-ID: <forum.sfmediaone.428000 at compuserve.com>
I have a quick question.
Are the Sheridan, Garibaldi and the others keeping an eye on
Morden?
Z. Michael Milutinovic (Using work's Account)
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Date: 08-Jan-96 11:41:54
From: J. Michael Straczynski <71016.1644 at compuserve.com>
To: Michael Milutinovic <75500.3370 at compuserve.com>
Subject: A question about Morden
Message-ID: <forum.sfmediaone.428074 at compuserve.com>
References: <forum.sfmediaone.428000 at compuserve.com>
They do when he's there, or at least they try to, but he's not
there a lot, and when he is...well, see for yourself....
jms
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