JMS on CompuServe (Sep 08, 1996) *POSSIBLE SPOILERS*
Brent Barrett
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Sun Sep 8 13:49:54 EDT 1996
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[ Summary of subjects in this section: ]
Sb: #573178-kick butt Pt. II
Sb: #573669-Kick Butt Pt.III
Sb: #573276-WorldCon & Hugo
Sb: #573365-B5 FAN CLUB INFO!
Sb: #573493-<<Grey 17 is missing>> [ Not a spoiler. -- BB ]
Sb: #573294-#WWE: Vorlons in the Past
#: 573178 S5/Babylon 5: General
06-Sep-96 13:41:15
Sb: #569740-#kick butt Pt. II
Fm: RICHARD M. PERRY
<< First off, I would like to thank all the little people out there for
proving my point. >>
Well, ok. Go ahead and thank yourself if that'll make you feel better.
Oops, I'm sorry; I hadn't realized you were thanking all the little people for
proving your point and since you've proven nothing you can't accept your own
thanks. Oh well, better luck next time.
<< This forum is like the Cult of Kali with its thugees ready to strangle all
infidels who do not follow the will of Kali. >>
Many pleasings to beat you, sir. Many, many pleasings.
<< I'm one of a few brave souls willing to debate and discuss without fawning
over a show >>
One would hardly call jumping in front of a car on the autobahn brave.
Stupid, yes. Brave, hardly.
<< I could nit-pick such minor things like newspapers i.e. The Universe Today,
or television news broadcasts, or even postal service, but I won't. >>
Oh, great enlightened one please give us a divine pearl of your
infinate wisdom. (that means "please elaborate cause we stupit peples don't
undurstand whur yer go'n' with this one")
<< I'm like the kid in the story, the Emperor's New Clothes, who said the
Emperor is naked, while everybody else falls in line, in fear of insulting, or
hurting the Emperor's feelings. >>
Someone here has obviously not read the Snow White thread or the Fan
Club thread.
<< B5 is a show that has a lot of things going for it, something interesting
alien characters, and an interesting main story line. >>
Yeah. Yeah, I'm with you. Go on. Ya don't say? Well I'm just shocked,
you mean there's aliens on B5? (And here, all this time, I thought those whuz
human aktors wif make-up on.)
<< It's the human characters who are flat, and drag the show down, as well as
secondary stories that are just uninteresting, or worst badly written. >>
Must be your TV; they look a little curved on mine. (some more
pleasently than others, I must admit) I don't know about you but my TV is only
displaying a 2-d picture and well... everything's flat.
Secondary stories?!? Just how big is this skyscraper anyway? A
skyscraper in flatland, who'd have thought it possible?
Oh, and BTW the proper phrasing would be; "or worse, badly written."
It's just bad grammar to say something is "worst badly written". <shudder> But
hey, you are the "great enlightened one" so I guess your right and all those
grammar books are wrong.
<< Is the show improving yes it is, but to instill greatness upon at this stage
in the game is premature. >>
"Greatness is never aprieciated in youth, called pride in mid-life,
dismissed in old age, and reconsidered in death." Care to be reconsidered, oh
great one?
<< That's my opinion folks. >>
OPINION:
1) A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by
positive knowledge or proof.
2) A judgment based on special knowledge and given by an expert.
3) A judgement or an estimation of the merit of a person or thing.
4) The prevailing view.
Synonyms: view, sentiment, feeling, belief, conviction, persuasion
Net Worth: 2 cents (US)
It's funny but my dictionaries (why yes, I do have more than one) don't
say "unless this belief belongs to Peter Stathis, (of CIS fame) in which case
it is to be taken as a fact which exibits positive proof, even when none
exists" Still definition #1 fits you most assuredly.
Please take note of definition #4)the prevailing view. In the Babylon 5
sections it is the prevailing view that Babylon 5 is the best show on TV. This
is not so in some other sections; so, please, by all means go find a prevailing
view that more closely matches your own view.
May the Light (of wisdom) shine forever,
Rich
P.S. Don't worry, you'll graduate Kindergarten and make it to first grade
eventually. You just have to learn how to play nicely with others, and to stop
eating rubber cement. (most people eat paste and sniff rubber cement, but
nooooo, he's got to be different)
#: 573246 S5/Babylon 5: General
06-Sep-96 16:41:43
Sb: #573178-kick butt Pt. II
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
By the way, you'll note that since coming on this last strafing run,
Stathis hasn't logged on to read any of the replies. And consequently hasn't
responded. Because it doesn't really matter to him. He just likes to swoop in
here and get people upset, then swoop out, amusing himself with the notion of
everybody scrambling around...then he waits a bit, then he does it again.
A truly demented and sad individual.
jms
[ Summary: The "trouble" poster is back, claiming that he's a better person
than to reply to JMS' response and that JMS is "no better than the little
people who are here to stroke your inflated ego." ]
#: 573871 S5/Babylon 5: General
07-Sep-96 22:36:43
Sb: #573669-Kick Butt Pt.III
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
"The truth is you don't like it when I take the show to task, but instead of
getting a calm arguement, I get nasty comments."
Nope, Not the truth. Because the truth is that your opinion(s) about
the show generally take up, oh, maybe 10% of your message(s). The rest of your
messages are all about you...about the validity of your opinion, the need for
other people to listen to your opinion, your reactions to other people's
reactions, your position relative to other people...you have no interest in
discussing the show, good or bad. The interest of Peter Stathis is in talking
about Peter Stathis, and his centrality to the known universe. If what you say
were the truth, you would not have titled the message that you were here to
"kick butt," given that the only butts around here are of the users of this
system. Check your own first message again...the "opinion" part runs about 2
sentences out of 25. The rest is all about you. Then you complain when the
discussion becomes about you when *you* set the parameters of the discussion.
Egotism? Peter, your ego could be wrapped around the sun three times and
still leave room for a knot.
You came in confrontational, with no interest in the discussion itself,
only in creating a discussion *about* the discussion...a discussion in which
Peter Stathis would stand crucified on a cross of his own making, for his own
edification.
You're worse than sad and pathetic...you're a cliche, and a boring one at
that. We've seen your act before, Peter, and we don't fall for it anymore. Go
bug somebody who cares.
jms
#: 573276 S5/Babylon 5: General
06-Sep-96 19:01:46
Sb: #573162-#WorldCon & Hugo
Fm: TOM KNUDSEN
Joe,
<Absolutley, I took the Hugo out on the very next day, Tuesday. The
whole place was very excited about it.>
Are you going to let it show up on camera somewhere?? After all, you
did say it belonged to the fans too. We should at least get to see it. At
least that's my two cents.
Tom^^^^
"The avalanche has ALREADY started. It is too late
for the pebbles to vote." - Kosh Naranek
#: 573872 S5/Babylon 5: General
07-Sep-96 22:36:46
Sb: #573276-WorldCon & Hugo
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
Actually, at www.scifi.com/worldcon there's a group photo of the Hugo
winners with the things in hand that's fairly decent.
jms
[ Summary: Another fan club member asks who he should contact and what he
should do about his missing stuff. ]
#: 573873 S5/Babylon 5: General
07-Sep-96 22:36:48
Sb: #573365-B5 FAN CLUB INFO!
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
Will send this on to Jim personally.
jms
[ Summary: Asks if JMS still gets nervous when speaking before a large
crowd. ]
#: 573874 S6/Babylon 5: Spoilers
07-Sep-96 22:36:52
Sb: #573493-<<Grey 17 is missing>>
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
It's *always* scary for me to go on...I'm always sure the day before that
nobody's gonna show up, and then I go into panic when I hit the stage, and it's
mainly a matter of burying that so I can get through it and perform. These
people have been there, often, for a long time, waiting, and they deserve
nothing less than a fun, interesting, and sometimes maybe even useful show.
They deserve their money's worth, which is why I'm so adamant about nobody
getting disappointed or cut off in line or ignored. The second panel was a
last-minute addition when the first one got flooded out (as it werte), and
after giving my all on the first one, I was just whipped...but I wasn't about
to let anyone leave disappointed. (As it was, I think my energy level was
still lower than I'd've liked during the second presentation, and a bit more
rambling in structure, especially toward the end, 'cause I was running on
fumes, though so far it seems to have come off okay from the other side of the
room.)
I think the day I ever *stop* being nervous about it, and get either
complacent about it, or take it for granted, I should stop doing it. But that
doesn't seem terribly likely....
jms
#: 573294 S6/Babylon 5: Spoilers
06-Sep-96 19:25:29
Sb: #571559-#WWE: Vorlons in the Past
Fm: AL LIPSCOMB
You have mentioned that B5 was a bit lower budget than B4. Did B4 have more
firepower than even the current B5? Otherwise I would wonder if it would be a
bit of a sitting duck for another Shadow attack. Of course it would have human
tech from 1k years in the future, but given the fact that the humans are just
above the Narn with no gravity etc I wounder if that is that big of a deal.
#: 573875 S6/Babylon 5: Spoilers
07-Sep-96 22:36:54
Sb: #573294-#WWE: Vorlons in the Past
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
Yeah, B4 had more firepower, and it had one thing B5 doesn't...engines
that can move it forward if necessary.
jms
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