JMS, Shame on you (was Re: ATTN: JMS: Re: Off-topic from jms

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Wed Feb 23 04:26:55 EST 2000


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From: Nathan Shafer <shafers at earthlink.net>
Date: 22 Feb 2000 10:23:43 -0700
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Jms at B5 wrote:
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> You know, it's funny that we all like to say we support freedom of speech and
> differing opinions until someone actually *uses* same, at which point one is
> pilloried for saying such things.

1.  There's a difference between protecting the existence of differing
   opinions, and *liking* those different opinions.

2.  There's a difference between dictating that you *can't* say 
   something (and having the power to enforce it), and offering the
   opinion that you *shouldn't* say that thing.

3.  Finally, there's a difference between hating the sin and hating
   the sinner.  I hate what you said, Joe; I still respect and admire
   *you*.  You, however, cannot see past your disagreements with 
   Reagan on policy, and feel you must condemn the man himself as evil.

I've often thought that "judge not, les ye be judged" meant that the
same measure will be used to judge us that we use to judge others.  The
merciful get a very forgiving curve; the self-righteous will be broken 
on the wheel of their own pride.

Of course I could be wrong.

- Nathan


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From: jmsatb5 at aol.com (Jms at B5)
Date: 22 Feb 2000 15:53:06 -0700
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>3.  Finally, there's a difference between hating the sin and hating
>   the sinner.  I hate what you said, Joe; I still respect and admire
>   *you*.  You, however, cannot see past your disagreements with 
>   Reagan on policy, and feel you must condemn the man himself as evil.
>

If you're going to go Biblical on me, then I have to point to the part that
says "Ye shall know them by their works."  So given his record, yeah, I'd say
he fits the bill.

The "hate the sin love the sinner" thing is also a great remover of
responsibility.  It also is used primarily by Christians, and I do not fall
into that camp.

 jms

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